Debian 12 XFCE is running smoothly on my Thinkpad thus far. I opted for a clean install rather than upgrade from 11.7 because I had introduced some testing and unstable bits to 11.7. Everything in stable is serving me well though I have installed Firefox from unstable only because the ESR version gets stale too quickly for my taste. I like having the non-free repo by default. It's nice to have functional wifi and graphics from the start, though that never seemed too hard to resolve by obtaining the correct firmware bits. Debian takes a little fiddling as compared to some distros (Ubuntu-based distros, for example) but this creates an opportunity to learn something about what is actually happening. For those not inclined to fiddle with things from time to time, Debian might not be the right answer. For those who want a fairly straightforward and functional system without a lot of extra bells and whistles, I'd say give it a try.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-09-03 Votes: 21
It's probably the most well-rounded distribution out there. I had no problem with my hardware and most of my applications and utilities were running smoothly and very stable. It's the fastest distribution I've tried. The only nitpick I found is that the KDE Plasma experience isn't the best, especially if you compare it to Fedora which has a better setup but is more unstable than Debian. KDE Plasma should be more minimal but the installer will bloat the system with some unnecessary [for some people] applications. Other than that, It is the most enjoyable Linux experience I've had and I will stick to it.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-08-26 Votes: 44
It's probably the most well-rounded distribution out there. I had no problem with my hardware and most of my applications and utilities were running smoothly and very stable. It's the fastest distribution I've tried. The only nitpick I found is that the KDE Plasma experience isn't the best, especially if you compare it to Fedora which has a better setup but is more unstable than Debian. KDE Plasma should be more minimal but the installer will bloat the system with some unnecessary [for some people] applications. Other than that, It is the most enjoyable Linux experience I've had and I will stick to it.
It's probably the most well-rounded distribution out there. I had no problem with my hardware and most of my applications and utilities were running smoothly and very stable. It's the fastest distribution I've tried. The only nitpick I found is that the KDE Plasma experience isn't the best, especially if you compare it to Fedora which has a better setup but is more unstable than Debian. KDE Plasma should be more minimal but the installer will bloat the system with some unnecessary [for some people] applications. Other than that, It is the most enjoyable Linux experience I've had and I will stick to it.
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2024-08-08 Votes: 33
This is the first distro where I was able to install on cutting-edge hardware and almost everything worked perfectly, out of the box. It's rock solid and gives you only what you need. I would have given higher than 9/10 if everything had just worked, and the community was more engaging on the forums. However, due to the popularity you can find anything you need pretty quickly by searching. Market adoption is a big deal for me and clearly people love Debian, so getting help is pretty quick and easy
Version: 12 Rating: 3 Date: 2024-08-07 Votes: 0
This feels and operates like a half-baked Linux distro. The screen does not redraw unless a keyboard key is pushed. It then updates one frame. Had to resort to constantly pushing keyboard keys to redraw the screen. I tried a few suggestions I found online but nothing worked. My best guess is that it has something to do with Wayland?
I've used other Linux distros and never encountered any problems like this. This wasn't fancy hardware either. It was older hardware and no NVDIA graphics card. I had to switch back to something I know is stable like Xubuntu or MX Linux.
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2024-07-30 Votes: 14
most super computers use linux as their operating system
quite a few linux o.s. are debian based
debian is non-proprietary
i finally tried debian 7 or 8 years ago and have been happy with it ever since
install and forget about it...
if you wish to modify any o.s. you need to ensure parts are compatible, like anything else, ya cant put a six bolt wheel rim on a vehicle designed with 5 bolts...so reading the manual is just one small step before you ...make improvements
short and sweet i had to add this line to make up the required 250 word minimum on this review
Version: 12 Rating: 1 Date: 2024-07-26 Votes: 0
Debian is the worst
I installed fresh yesterday, all seemed okay, until it required me to do an upgrade. Then I did the upgrade. I rebooted and still all seemed okay. I used the pc as normal, and also browsed the web with firefox ESR, but I noticed many many many freezes within firefox, that needed to be terminated via xkill.... Very unsatisfying.
So I ended my day, powered off my pc... First thing I saw that it wasnt powering off, it was waiting on a service for 1min 30s to turn off... Next morning (today) I turned my pc on, and it wasn't booting at all. It said some error message: VFS ext4 not found. Wtf? Debian just killed itself overnight?
Ok so, documentation is poor, website is ugly, debian is definitely not stable.
How is anyone calling this stable distro? Come on
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-07-26 Votes: 64
Debian is not for everyone. Although it has become very user-friendly in its latest versions, if you don't know what you're doing, Debian will break. There is a problem with all Linux distributions, which is Wayland. This does not work properly on any distro that I know of. I recommend using X11 for any distribution. This "Wayland" project, for me, is something that is not ready enough to be operated. Now, Debian is by far the best distribution out there. I can say that. I have been using Debian since Sarge 3.1 in 2005 and I don't know anything better than Debian.
Version: 12 Rating: 6 Date: 2024-07-24 Votes: 0
Since it's release last year to April of this year I had been using Debian 12. But after installing Mupen64 (via Gnome software) and updating my system (via terminal) Debian broke on me. Yes, that's right. Debian, the legendary, the most stable of all Linux distros broke. Before that it ran flawlessly for 10 straight months. I was really sad when it broke on me but looking back I can't say my experience using Debian was all that great.
Debian's installer is weird and confusing, it's website is also weird and has poor documentation, apt packages are old so I had to flatpak a bunch of things, Gnome login screen is buggy, and Firefox ESR is terrible (Yes I know that now there is an official Debian version of Firefox and I was using it). Before putting up with all these drawbacks was worth it because I kept telling myself "But Debian is stable". But after it broke (just like all the the distros based off it) I had to move on to Gentoo.
I think my laptop is just really sensitive or something, I know that more many people Debian is stable, just not in my case. Maybe installing Mupen64 via Gnome software caused the problem (I doubt it tho).
-Pros-
stable for the most part
fast
super easy to maintain
classic distros that has a great community behind it
-Cons-
terrible installer that's confusing to use and doesn't always work
apt packages are old
website is weird
Firefox ESR needs to go
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-07-21 Votes: 34
I have been using linux Mint for the past two years. First, Lmde 5, which after a month of use and after updating the kernel could no longer boot. I switched to a Ubuntu based linux Mint which after a kernel update about a month ago also failed to boot. I have installed Debian 12 Gnome DE which by default works with the Weyland window manager. The problem with Weyland is that flatplak applications (not all, about half) do not open windows in the right size (proportion) the letters are small, hard to read so I switched to X11 window manager and now everything works just as it should. Weyland uses about 100 mb of ram memory less and is a shade faster than X11. But it doesn't bother me because with X11 everything works perfectly and so I will continue to use my Debian with X11 window manager. I am very happy with Debian because it works stable and reliable. I think my search for a linux distribution to use permanently is over and Debian is my final choice.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-07-10 Votes: 41
Thank you Debian developers , you solved my laptop / external screen issues I had with other distros , including windows previously. This is a proper distro with no problems whatsoever , it just works on both nvidia and Iris xfe graphics cards as the cards should perform. Nice fast dependable operation , no more constant maintenance like Arch based distros. Great improvement for me. Would recommend this distro to anyone who just want to get on with their daily computing taskings without having to worry about constant repairs caused by instability after unnecessary , immediate , not properly tested updates in other distros.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-07-08 Votes: 30
If you do not want to have problems, your only option is Debian distribution.
Nvidia P1000 and AMD RX580 wine dual graphics card, kernel and you will get rid of many other troubles.
I have been using Kernel Linux from 1992 when I had 10 years old
No matter what distribution I tried, I always no problems.
I haven't done any maintenance or repairs to the computer or dusted the fan for a long time.
Still, it works like the Sun. Quiet and extremely fast.
Maximum RAM usage when the computer is idle is 128MB, I have 512 GB of RAM
there is no problem. None of the updates I received caused any problems on my computer. My mind is so relaxed that I can't explain it.
I started to trust Debian 0.1. I don't even check anything anymore. I'm starting to love Gnu/Linux again.
blender wine Nvidia\ AMD games all work great, no problems.
By the way I am using Debian KDE/MATE with 3D animation
I never keep anything on my system that I don't need.
My own programs, my own settings
I customized them all. There are only things I want.
Debian is great at this.
Lots of options, lots of talent
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-07-01 Votes: 21
If you do not want to have problems, your only option is Debian distribution.
Nvidia wine dual graphics card, kernel and you will get rid of many other troubles.
I have been using Linux for 2 years
No matter what distribution I tried, I always had problems.
If I didn't swear by windows I would go back.
I haven't done any maintenance or repairs to the computer or dusted the fan for a long time.
Still, it works like poison. Quiet and extremely fast
Maximum RAM usage when the computer is idle is 500MB
there is no problem. None of the updates I received caused any problems on my computer. My mind is so relaxed that I can't explain it.
I started to trust Debian. I don't even check anything anymore. I'm starting to love Gnu/Linux again.
blender wine nvidia games all work great, no problems.
By the way I am using Debian Minimal LXDE
I never keep anything on my system that I don't need.
My own programs, my own settings
I customized them all. There are only things I want.
Debian is great at this.
Lots of options, lots of talent
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-06-29 Votes: 6
Having used Ubuntu and then Arch based systems for several years straight, I never really gave Debian much of a thought, probably because the packages were too "old" and I didn't want to be behind security fixes. Arch got to a point where it was becoming more work to maintain, plus the AUR being too much of a risk to compensate for their lacking repo. Debian became a consideration, having been too fed up with Ubuntu/Canonical to go back, and because it's where the whole APT package management is from, so it has to be at least better than Ubuntu.
Plus, I can see a lot more interesting software other distros already had are now on it, like Strawberry (music player). I didn't have to use a PPA/DEB file or AUR anymore if Debian had it... Just as example (plus other software that's been recently added to Debian 12). So now I no longer have a reason to go back to Arch, especially when I realized Backports exists for specific stuff I might want without risking breakage with Testing or Unstable.
Seems I was wrong about my assumptions about Debian, it's actually more stable than I thought. XFCE and MATE work flawlessly with improved memory caching compared to before (having used them on Ubuntu and later Arch). My distrohopping days are pretty much over.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-06-25 Votes: 5
A candidate for being the best operating system on the planet maybe? Giving it a higher rating than 10 is not possible here, otherwise I would have done it. :P
And I would call Debian describe as a pure experience. Apt, dpkg, the so familiar things. And actually really complete software repository. (No dependency on Snaps. Yess.)
Actual focus on actually being as free and open source as possible (more than other distributions).
+
Stability in the first place. You choose it for stability.
Of course I am talking about Debian Stable here.
> Debian Testing or Unstable can also be great experiences, nice to play around with in a VM or even desktop usage if you don't mind bugs at moments (and better you can report those bugs).
But the main idea of these is to help development in the first place.
And modern desktop hardware usage is where I already run Arch Linux primarilly. I prefer that quicker update cycle then and newest versions of everything, combined with having control on every aspect of my own system what I install and configure (DIY).
Otherwise, Debian Stable is also still a great choice for desktops. At least if you have a bit less specific requirements on modern hardware.
Lots of people don't like seeing system updates every day, so to have that limited to security patches mostly is a good thing for them.
Debian is really underrated, also for desktop usage.
Ubuntu is - hugely - overrated.
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2024-06-02 Votes: 0
I've read various posts over the internet saying that Debian is not that great as a gaming distribution, in all honesty? I have to disagree. When it comes to older hardware you're pretty much set, just follow the Steam Debian wiki page and you'll be off to the races. Sure you won't have the bleeding edge in packages compared to other distros but it makes up for it in stability.
But, if you have newer hardware (like myself) or you want the latest mesa drivers when it comes to Steam, the flatpak version of Steam is a great choice. Steam flatpak uses its own mesa driver which is updated quite frequently, giving you the bleeding edge when it comes to gaming performance whilst having the stability of Debian, it is a match made in heaven.
When it comes to the Steam flatpak installation it is quite simple, you'll first have to add the flatpak repo which is easy to follow on the flathub "Set up flathub" section and follow the Debian instructions. Find Steam on flathub afterwards and follow the instructions once more and you should be good to go. Lastly if you have issues with flatpak Steam regarding finding drives a simple command shown below or the use of Flatseal can help resolve those issues.
Overall I think Debian is actually one of the better distros when it comes to gaming. I use Debian for gaming, emulation and web browsing and it has been awesome, I've been to various other distros but I keep coming back to Debian, highly recommended.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-06-01 Votes: 5
Absolutely blazing fast!
I have used Manjaro, Ubuntu, Fedora, and MxLinux, Debian is absolutely a beast when it comes to Internet Speed...
Just Wow!
However, it's not as polished as others.
In fact it looks very plain and vanilla with Gnome Desktop. Kernel is not the latest, neither does the default office suite and Firefox.
If speed and transparency is your top priority and don't mind an plain looking desktop experience, this is the one.
If you want fancier and polished experience, try Fedora or Manjaro or MxLinux.
Ubuntu is buggy
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-05-27 Votes: 2
Debian 12: Solid. Reliable.
Bookworm doesn't disappoint. Debian's reputation for stability? Holds true. Hardware? Supported. Software? A library. Installation? Smooth. Not flashy, but rock-solid. Servers hum. Workstations purr. Desktops? Good enough.
Plus side:
Stable as a mountain. Mission-critical? Debian's your mule.
Software galore. Need a tool? It's likely there.
Runs on anything. Old hardware? No problem.
Choice. GNOME, KDE, Xfce, take your pick.
Support. Five years of security patches. Sleep easy.
Downside:
Not bleeding edge. Latest and greatest? Look elsewhere.
Newbies beware. Can be overwhelming.
Installation? Takes time.
Overall?
Debian 12 is the workhorse. Steady. Dependable. Experienced users? Rejoice. Need flash? Keep looking. But for most, Debian just works.
Version: 12 Rating: 1 Date: 2024-05-24 Votes: 0
Debian, despite its longstanding presence in the Linux community, has several significant drawbacks. Its outdated software repositories mean users often miss out on the latest features and security improvements, which can be frustrating for those needing up-to-date applications. The installation process is cumbersome and less intuitive compared to modern distributions, making it less suitable for beginners. Debian's focus on stability over innovation results in a slower update cycle, delaying important updates. Its default desktop environments can feel bland and outdated. Additionally, the absence of proprietary drivers by default complicates hardware compatibility, making setup more difficult for users with modern hardware. The lack of user-friendly tools and support compared to more popular distributions like Ubuntu further diminishes its appeal.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-05-23 Votes: 37
Debian killed my distro hopping. After years of multi-booting, it was the only distro that never failed me.
It lacks the bloat and questionable decisions of Ubuntu. It upgrades beautifully between major releases, unlike Fedora. Once it is set up and working, it stays that way.
Package selection is great. Cliched complaints about stale packages are mitigated by backports, flatpak, snap, appimage, and the nix and guix package managers. Or just compile the software yourself.
Debian is community based. There is no corporation pushing strange or self-serving decisions. It is probably the most important community based distro we have.
And the ISO *finally* includes the firmware you'll probably need for your hardware.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-05-09 Votes: 97
Debian is a superb distro, fast, light or heavy (depends on your choice), very configurable and with tons of packages and consistently stands out for its reliability and stability. While I occasionally feel the urge to distro-hop, I invariably find myself returning to Debian. Why? Because it simply works.
For those seeking a fast minimalistic distro devoid of unnecessary bloatware, Debian is the ideal choice. Admittedly, some of its software may appear outdated, but this very characteristic contributes to its rock-solid stability. Rather than labeling it as old or outdated, I prefer to describe it as very well tested. It was precisely the fact that it has slightly older packages that drew me to experimenting with various other distributions - Arch, Fedora, Tumbleweed, Manjaro, to name a few in pursuit of bleeding-edge software. Yet, in the end, I’ve come to the realization that the allure of novelty fades quickly when confronted with significant bugs and compatibility issues.
Even within the Debian ecosystem, occasional bugs do arise. However, these instances remain exceptions rather than the rule. Most issues are tied to specific application versions and the Debian community actively addresses them mostly. Personally, I’ve settled into a comfortable rhythm with Debian, while leveraging backports for the kernel and other essential software components that require a more recent version. So it is a win-win solution :)
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-05-06 Votes: 59
Debian stands as a beacon of stability and reliability in the Linux ecosystem, offering users an operating system that excels in both performance and versatility. At its core, Debian embodies the principles of free and open-source software, fostering a vibrant community of developers and users who contribute to its ongoing evolution. As I delve into the intricacies of Debian, I find myself impressed by its myriad strengths and occasional drawbacks.
One of Debian's foremost virtues is its unparalleled stability. The meticulous testing procedures employed prior to each release ensure that users can rely on Debian for mission-critical tasks without fear of system instability or unexpected crashes. This stability is particularly crucial for server environments where uninterrupted uptime is imperative.
Moreover, Debian's reliability extends beyond its technical prowess to encompass its commitment to software freedom. By adhering strictly to the principles of free software, Debian remains a bastion of openness and transparency in an industry often dominated by proprietary solutions. This dedication to ethical computing resonates strongly with users who prioritize privacy, security, and user autonomy.
However, Debian's conservative release cycle, while conducive to stability, may occasionally leave users longing for the latest features and updates. Furthermore, the installation process, though comprehensive, may pose a challenge for newcomers to the Linux ecosystem. Despite these minor shortcomings, Debian's robust documentation and supportive community serve as invaluable resources for users navigating the installation and configuration process.
In conclusion, Debian earns my utmost commendation for its unwavering commitment to excellence and its steadfast adherence to the principles of free software. With its rock-solid stability, broad hardware support, and extensive software repositories, Debian stands as a testament to the power of collaborative development and the enduring appeal of open-source software. Therefore, I wholeheartedly award Debian a rating of 9 out of 10, recognizing it as a cornerstone of the Linux ecosystem and a testament to the enduring values of innovation, collaboration, and freedom.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-05-02 Votes: 37
Debian, oh my sweet Debbie,
I'm still coming back to You!
Debian is a miraculous cure for distro hoping, a rock solid and versatile OS with plenty of software options and packages. It works out of the box on different drivers tested so far (mostly Intel laptops). You install it, you forget it and you just focus on your work. Not the latest kernel or not the newest packages do not necessary mean “outdated” but rather thoroughly tested…it’s a huge advantage for the end-user. For Linux enthusiasts enjoying continuously evolving OS, there are still the unstable and testing branches.
I also appreciate Debian’s decentralized and community driven development with slow release cycles and the option to install non-free software if desired.
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2024-04-30 Votes: 5
Really like/liked 12. But kept losing my Bluetooth headphone connection. Until one day I was unable to get it back. At first I thought the headset was going and had finally gone bad. However on a Windows 10 computer the headset was immediately recognized it and, depending on which Bluetooth device I switched to, it would switch it would do so automatically. After hours of sifting through the web for answers and to no avail trying any and all those i found, I removed it. Because of my circumstances not being able to use my Bluetooth headset is not an option for me. Having said that .when this gets fixed I will be the first in line to re-trash windows and reinstall Debian.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-04-28 Votes: 21
I have been using Debian for 10 years and I can say that (bookworm) is the best version to date and has never let me down, it's a rock solid stable system.
I would highly recommend this for everyone I have installed it on two PC's and two Laptop's with no trouble, one LT is over 12 years old and runs just fine.
The community is very kind and responsive.
Debian is a reason to stop distro-hopping and waste your time.
Debian is as friendly as it has ever been in my opinion.
Huge respect to the developers and creators of Debian who contribute their time and strength to make such a fine distro.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-04-22 Votes: 9
The most stable distro you will find. And with the bookworm release, Debian isn't that outdated now, it just works. Sometimes, you can break apt, but that's rare. It has good support, variety of desktop environments to choose from, and it's just getting better day by day. It is one of the best linux distro out there. If you haven't tried Debian, go for it, you will not regret it. It has a lot of packages in it's main repositories. I always come back to it after distro hopping. It will be a great choice if you are switching from ubuntu or any other beginner distro for the first time, because it is not as easy to operate as those, but not hard. It will increase you knowledge about linux a lot.
10/10
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-04-22 Votes: 3
I went extensively (2year+) through Manjaro, Kubuntu, MX, Mint. Kernels 5.5-6.8
Debian 12 is so far ahead of everyone in terms of stability and consistency it's not even funny.
- Nothing stewpid going on in journalctl -p3, systemctl status (--user).
- HW video acceleration works nearly out-off-the-box (with few apt installs).
- I can run Intel/Nvidia gpus in hybrid/offload or in exclusive setup. Gsync/FreeSymc works.
- I can compile my kernels and deb package them. KMS drivers get recompiled without errors.
- apt is just as boring and uneventful as Debian itself. Updates are seamless. No regressions or kms errors. Never had to hunt any keys or fix anything.
- Nothing obscure happening behind my backs (snaps ubuntu, mhw manjaro) The system feels as Vanilla as Apfelstrudel made with the homemade pastry and vanilla proper.
- Geekbench6 1800/7200 on stock i7-8700k with no special optimizations.
CONS: still unable to completely turn off my 2070 Super (uses 6-8 Watts while on Intel integrated). Unlike in Manjaro, only coarse-grained nvidia pm supported. "NVreg_DynamicPowerManagement=0x02" gives
> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/gpus/0000:01:00.0/power
Runtime D3 status: Not supported
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-04-18 Votes: 5
I am using Debian for 10 years now. I find it the best Linux based operating system for my needs.
Ever since Debian 12, it is even better, and I believe that Debian is on the right track with the decision they made with the distro.
I use the KDE Plasma desktop environment, as I find it having the best applications available, the best workflow, system resources use, the ergonomics and aesthetics.
Debian, as an operating system, offers a stable experience, with all the necessary tools for daily use.
I use it also on my servers, all my laptops and NUCs, and it runs flawlessly for many years.
I recommend Debian for anyone who wants to use and learn Linux.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-04-12 Votes: 0
Debian Cinnamon edition live .iso is ok, it has nice selection of apps and things for internationalization like different input methods are installed out of box, bluetooth support is configured too.
So basically Cinnamon edition has everything a user is expecting...
Also Debian GNOME edition live .iso is ok. Input methods are present, nice default selection of apps, and working bluetooth...
BUT XFCE and MATE edition live .isos suck, cause user need to configure/install bluetooth him/herself, so these 2 editions are not recomender for general use, you need to waste time for configuring basic things with them.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-04-07 Votes: 16
Debian 12 is kind of like an invisible operating system. It's there, it does look and feel great, it works great and it does what is asked. Debian 12 can be installed from bootable USB Live iso (available for each desktop environment) that includes the non-free AMD drivers! This makes the installation a easy!
There are tons of packages in the Debian repository available and using instructions from QGIS, the latest version was able to be installed, which was my catalyst for switching distros. My computer use is not intensive, but Firefox with 20 tabs open, youtube running and another cad or office program running is handled with ease.
(I'd installed and upgraded Wheezy, Jesse, Stretch and Sid before trying another distro. When I tried to go back, I couldn't get the live CD or net install to work BUT the failure was likely not reading instructions before plunging in. This time I did read the Debian preparation and installation instructions as well as some of the post install instructions. The manual is extremely well written and a refreshing change.
I can't think of anything to downgrade my rating even by 1 point. And, believe me I can be a harsh critic.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-04-06 Votes: 19
Top distro ever.
Stable, reliable, rock solid; and version 12 is best version ever: firmware included, drivers complete, fast boot and lightning fast with LXQT or XFCe.
Debian is nowadays mature to ber for real an universal operating system, can really be now everything you want, rock solid server, reliable desktop, embedded OS system.
Cons: if you want specific software (like MySQL Workbench, for example), you have to add sid entry to /etc/apt/sources.list, install the software with dependencies, then comment out the entry to go back to stable tree dependencies, but that's it
Version: 12 Rating: 8 Date: 2024-04-03 Votes: 0
Debian12 has some problems. When installing the system iso, gnome will install a Thai terminal. This bug seems to have been around for a long time.
Debian is old but stable, I sometimes feel LibreOffice 7.4 is too old.
Gnome and KDE each have their own strengths and weaknesses. The former is smooth but too crude, and the latter is perfect but lacks stability. KDE 5.27 has a memory leak on my laptop with several processes named akonadi.
Linux DEs are over twenty years old and still terrible to use. Redundant functions, cumbersome settings, poor hardware compatibility, and weird operating logic. Maybe I shouldn't complain, the developers never ask me for payment.
Debian is considered to be the most typical free software. Everyone says so. In fact, it does not have much say in the Linux world. This is the biggest problem. The open source world is dominated by large companies. When Red Hat and others switched to systemd ten years ago, Debian could only follow — I am not blaming systemd, I mean that because systemd is supported by large companies, it will definitely surpass other init and eventually become mainstream.
Unfortunately, Linux is becoming more and more homogeneous, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, they look so similar for regular users. People recommended me to use devuan, and even freebsd, well, they are not dead yet, but they have been marginalized.
Very poor English. I resorted to Google Translate. Hope it doesn't cause reading difficulties.
Awesome stability and performance. A very good alternative to something like ubuntu if you dislike canonical. Most servers and such run on Debian. it is also extremely simple to set up different applications thanks to the apt tool. Also systemd does work as a good init tool and a daemon manager. most programs run without any problems, and a good part of the world's OS'es and servers rely on debian. Compiling and installing custom kernels is very easy. all hail our lord and savior dpkg. also apt that tool is awesome
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-03-17 Votes: 70
I never thought I'd write this: everything works with Debian 12. Until now, I had tried to install Debian but I always had problems with the hardware. Now, with non-free+kde repositories, everything works. My pc flies with Debian 12 kde.
Until now I used Ubuntu, because everything works on Ubuntu. But I don't like snaps or being forced to install snap. My time with Ubuntu is over, but I needed Debian to be "up to par" of a modern PC.
Now my hp desket 2722e printer works (and so does the scanner). Now I can play Total War games on Steam without any problems, much faster than on Windows. Now my videos in different formats are recognized by Dragon Player without any problems, I don't have to install VLC.
I feel that Debian is "Linux", and i didn´t feel the same with Ubuntu.
Good job and good decision: it was necessary to activate the non-free firmware by default, and it was necessary to introduce Calamares installer on live image, It is easier for non expert users (like me) than the default installer.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-03-16 Votes: 52
The world runs on Debian. I think this because it is very stable and secure.
I mostly distro hopped between many distros, like Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora and openSUSE. Out of all these distros, Debian I like the most, so I stayed with it for the last ten five years.
Debian is stable, and it just works and gets out of your way. If you need a distribution you don't have to fiddle with too much, Debian will be a great companion.
Pros:
- Debian is stable (if you use the stable channel)
- offers all the packages you would need to work with no problems
- makes easy to hop to other distros based on it (like Ubuntu, Linux Mint)
- you will always get back to Debian, for sure!
Cons:
NONE
Just give Debian a try! You will enjoy it for sure.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-02-28 Votes: 75
To name just one reason to use Debian:
Debian is stable for you. never releases packages without thoroughly testing them
No one tests as much as Debian
I will not say that there are many ISO options in Debian or that it supports all desktops and file managers.
you all already know these and more
I will only talk about the speed of the debia.
Debian is the fastest distribution I have ever used.
Debian has no rival in terms of speed.
here you go
Let me share with you the results of the tests I made with blender 3d.
same scene
windows 10 = 2 minutes 7 seconds
linux mint cinnamon = 1 minute 53 seconds
mx linux = 1 minute 48 seconds
debian lxde = 1 minute 45 seconds
I had to turn on the laptop cooler in all the distributions I tried, especially in Windows 10.
because it was putting a lot of pressure on the graphics card and the processor. This caused a terrible heat to emerge.
Debian LXDE does not even need this. Because even though it was the same scene while rendering in blender, it did not put any load on my computer. I noticed that neither my processor nor my graphics card was stressed at all. Even the fan was working on low.
That's why I didn't turn on the laptop cooler.
I was actually surprised when I first noticed it. Then, my surprise did not last long as I knew that Debian had indeed done more tests than other distributions and therefore was more stable than all other distributions.
Yes, that's what I call an operating system.
Debian LXDE is an operating system that is light, fast and does not burden the computer.
This ensures that your computer does not strain, overheat and wear out in a short time while you are doing your work.
I think you should try debian lxde If you want, go one step further and try Debian Minimal LXDE.
When you realize that you are doing your work too quickly
Be sure, you will never let go again
just like me :)
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-02-24 Votes: 83
I have been using Debian, or Debian-based systems, for 15 years, and I can honestly say that it has never, ever let me down. These days I keep it simple with Debian Stable and Xfce, but for users who are just learning about Linux, Debian-based systems such as MX-Linux or Linux Mint or Ubuntu are there with helpful toolkits to make the transition from Windows easier.
I like that the Debian team focus on stability and safety. It means that I feel safe adding applications from the repository, and happy that my elderly computer still works as well as it did ten years ago. My life would not collapse if my computer was unreliable, but I prefer that it works every time, and Debian gives me that confidence.
There is a choice of installation methods, from the lightweight netinst iso (for online installation), through the offline DVD iso to live versions with Gnome, KDE, Xfce, Cinnamon, LXDE, LxQt or Mate desktop. I disagree with statements that the installer is intimidating - in fact it is simple, consistent and robust, and far easier to use than some other Linux distributions.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-02-24 Votes: 59
I think the way to look at Debian is to consider the top 10 Linux distributions from about any list and notice at least half of them are Debian, Debian-based (such as Ubuntu) or based upon Debian-based distributions (such as Mint based upon Ubuntu/Debian). This isn't to take anything away from the others on that top 10 list (commonly Arch, Fedora, and openSUSE), but it does show how pervasive Debian has become. Why? Debian is rock-solid stable. And more-so than any other distribution I've tried. Debian also has a huge collection of free software from a similarly huge customer base. The Alien program also makes it easy to convert Fedora RPM packages to Debian DEB packages for installation.
I'm using many different operating systems today as different needs may require a different focus, but all my servers are Debian. Debian has all the programs I need (#1 consideration) and they just work 24x7 until I decide to turn them off. That's what servers are supposed to do, right?
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-02-17 Votes: 57
cool
the most stable system
even during failures it starts to glow
GRUB bootloader no longer runs os-prober by default
New malloc implementation
A syslog daemon is no longer installed by default
Big font updates, including Google Fonts
Debian is a free operating system, developed by thousands of volunteers from all over the world who collaborate via the Internet. The Debian project's key strengths are its volunteer base, its dedication to the Debian Social Contract and Free Software, and its commitment to provide the best operating system possible. This new release is another important step in that direction.
Version: 12 Rating: 7 Date: 2024-02-14 Votes: 1
Debian, renowned for its stability, security, and extensive software repositories, is a cornerstone in the Linux community (can present a steeper learning curve compared to more beginner-friendly distributions), underpinning many other distributions like Ubuntu. However, its commitment to stability often means the software in its stable release can be older, prioritizing thorough testing over cutting-edge features. This approach, while ensuring system reliability, may not satisfy users or developers in need of the latest software advancements for their projects.
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2024-02-09 Votes: 19
It's a great distro, but i have problrms with Debian when I try to managing my AMD GPU chip. I've made my little home studio withh my old laptop and it runs reaaly great.
The worst thing that I can said is the installation. It takes a lot of time comparing with Artix, for example.
The RT kernel instalation is too easy and obviusly Debian repositories have all applications that you need.
Maybe, it could be great that the installer user could be in "sudoers" group automatically.
For low resources computers it works really fine with XFCE or LXDE.
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2024-01-29 Votes: 54
The best distro to daily once you are ready to "settle down" after hopping and are comfortable-ish with the terminal.
The purists who want the cleanest environment possible to build from without going overboard will find this is a great start without having to learn too much especially if you come from Ubuntu or mint. Fair warning though - its GUI app store app isn't that great and needs a lot of time just to load categories, let alone do proper searches. Terminal is your friend here in a very big way and that's not a bad thing.
It takes some doing, but doing that do does make the do worth it. And the do is really just getting comfortable with the terminal and apt. The benefit is that you get to know your system better and once its all rigged up you can know that you aren't dealing with extra bloat unless you want to and that the core of it all - the kernel - is stable. Getting into the flow doesn't take long.
Added bonus is the ease of which you can install basically every desktop on install. Nice!
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-01-19 Votes: 91
Among all the distributions I tried, I understood this very well.
Debian is definitely the best distribution on the marke
The best desktop is definitely the lxde desktop.
Debian lxde is the best and smoothest Linux distribution I have ever used.
It is both light, fast and stable to the end.
Wine latest version ( 9.0 ) works perfectly
I can play the Astral Tale mmorpg game without any problems with
blender, makehuman programı mixamo all work.
Even though I tried many times before, I could not use Debian on my laptop.
It always caused problems, especially the nvidia graphics card problem.
but debian 12 lxde is almost perfect.
Since the resource usage is very low, I can play my games on my old computer without freezing or crashing.
Likewise, I can use my programs easily.
Everyone saying Debian packages are too old, lxde is too old.
Don't pay attention to those who say so.
The important thing is that your computer works smoothly
The operating system should not put a burden on the computer
should not exploit the resource
He shouldn't be tiring his computer
It should not wear out in a short time.
It should not break the computer in a short time.
here it is in debian lxde
it does exactly that.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-01-17 Votes: 97
I've been using Linux-based systems for 27 years, at workstations and servers, and I've witnessed the evolution of Unix-like operating systems.
For about 8 years I used mainly Debian-based distributions, with or without systemd, due to the generous volume of Deb installation packages ,practical , boring stability, detection and correct storage of hardware settings , speed in execution – including on computers weaker, or / and older.
Servers are no exception, compatibility with Debian stable is amazing, and upgrading to the new version is done on the fly without any problems for service management.
My workstations usually use an custom light XFCE4 and I have not encountered any major software or compatibility issues. Successfully solve the task as a mediabox system, there are no problems with HDMI sound or disconnections for NetworkManager, which can not be said about devices with systemd-less modification, for example MX, Antix or Devuan-a thing to note here for non systemd believers.
The optional installation of the current cores, backports, works smoothly, as does the current use with it.
If the operating system appears memory-consuming or seems to use a longer boot time, it can be easily adjusted by administering services at startup specific systemd.
Calamares-based installation routine is exceptional, you can easily change the types and size of partitions, and installation on UEFI partitions is perfect – here still a white ball against some non systemd distributions based on Debian and well rated, which installation grub UEFI fails miserably or simply is not done – negative example is Devuan with reflecta installer.
The result is a deserved 10 note and a personal opinion not to remove systemd from Debian, to avoid unpleasant surprises.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2024-01-14 Votes: 61
I'm more than impressed with Debian 12. In fact, it's the best experience with Linux I've had so far.
For a couple of years, I settled on Xubuntu but the reliability hasn't always been there and especially since the introduction of Firefox as a Snap, I started looking around for a new operating system. I've tried a few on a secondary machine, but there has always been some unnerving bugs or they were just to much work to maintain. In the end, I want to work with my system and not on my system. The search finally ended, when Debian 12 was released. I only installed the base and added everything I needed from there (all the software I need is in the repositories which is a huge plus) and the system just flies, is super solid and very lightweight (~350 MB after cold boot).
Honestly, I didn't have an single issue so far. I've never been that amazed to boot my laptop in the morning and get to work. This OS is an absolute dream to work with. I've migrated all my machines to Debian and am definitely planning to stay a little longer.
I'd like to thank all the developers and everyone involved with the Debian project. Keep up the great work.
Debian 12 is a clear 10/10.
Version: 12 Rating: 5 Date: 2023-12-31 Votes: 1
I don't know why Bookworm is considered stable. There are so many things that are broken, so many performance issues. I use Bullseye on a slow machine and get better performance than when using Bookworm on a faster machine. There are memory leaks in aspects of KDE, particularly in regards to notifications and appointments components. I end up with my machine using 500MB of RAM on literally nothing. I have zero appointments set up. I don't use those aspects of KDE. But, there they are, sucking the life out of my machine. The SDDM login doesn't function properly on certain hardware and the cursor glitches, blinks, and there is a square of color that looks like a rendering issue if you move the mouse when logging in. Something broke how text displays in the various GUI components of certain apps, so it looks like someone put my display in a paper shredder. I haven't seen most of these issues in Bullseye. The standards for stability must be pretty low. I'd expect things to be breaking like this in a testing branch, not in a stable one. The Bullseye release has fewer features in certain respects, particularly in regards to KDE theming. But, it's so much more stable. I'm going to take the term "stable" with a grain of salt when it comes from Debian for now on. I can't have every other thing breaking on my machine. That doesn't feel stable and it doesn't feel like an upgrade/update. I'd rather stick with something that actually works.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-12-22 Votes: 91
just works, everything works...
i admit that I sometimes F--itup, but thats my doing and nothing to do with the developers.
highly recommend this for everyone, install it on grannies machine and tell her its the new windows update... and it will just keep on working.
I have been using it for ages, every now and again I install some other linux variant just for the lols, but always maintain Debian as my main installation, you know, because, well, why not, afterall and I will say it again, it just works.
I've been running SID for over 6 months, coming from stable previously. This is basically a slightly slower rolling Debian release distro! Everything is smooth and runs just fine. Update the system once a week, have Timeshift setup but so far i didn't need it at all. I'm using the KDE Desktop Environment with Pipewire for the sound back-end, and mostly do programming in Visual Studio Code and play games on Steam. My hardware is not the latest either, i'm running a modest i7 2600K, 32GB RAM with a newer AMD RX6750 XT, everything just works! Debian hasn't let me down so far :)
After trying Debian 12 version "Unstable" for a week I decided to stop because I was starting to have serious bugs with tabs on Steam and on certain websites despite very regular updates.
I decided to try the "Testing" version this time.
I don't like "Firefox ESR" so I installed the "normal Firefox" by following the instructions very well explained on the "Mozilla" site and I have no problems.
For my PC which is quite old now I find that the drivers of my peripherals are much better recognized under "Debian" than under Win$$ or distributions based on "Arch"... for the moment I have not noticed any problems ...the system consumes only 1.4 GB of RAM without activities and up to 2.8 GB of RAM in full activity.
Without doing anything Win$$ is already at 2.5 GB of RAM for me....to be continued
I have been using Debian Sid for 7 years, I have had no problems with it.
The only breakages were my fault, wanting to tinker without really knowing what I was doing.
XFCE environment with minimalist configuration, the bare minimum in terms of packages and according to my personal use (no sound server, exit pipewire, pulseaudio, jack).
Only software from the official Debian repositories, no flatpaks or other gems found on the internet.
It's holding up, the updates (done every 2 weeks) are going very well, it's my one and only OS, and I only have one PC.
I do a full root backup with Clonezilla every 2 months or so, just in case.
For someone who knows about Linux, and wants a solid and robust system (Debian is known for that), a Sid is no exception to the rule, provided you don't make it a Frankeindebian ;)
After a disastrous attempt with the XFCE version for me who is not used to Debian, I decided to try again with GNOME in the "unstable" version.
Of course you have to spend a little time finding tutorials on the internet to know what to do, how to configure by typing command lines in "Terminal" but with "Debian" it's definitely worth it...
For the moment, for a week I have had a perfectly functional system. All the bugs existing in other Linux distributions are not present in "Debian"... the Nvidia-setting backup finally works correctly in root mode, no bugs with some Steam tabs also have no problem recognizing the second hard drive...on average the system uses around 1.4 GB of RAM...
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-12-09 Votes: 29
Debian is often hailed as a stalwart in the world of Linux distributions, and it's not difficult to see why. If I were to give it a personal score, I'd certainly rate it a solid 10/10. Its unwavering commitment to stability and free software principles is truly commendable. As someone who values reliability and robustness in an operating system, Debian's track record in these areas is impressive.
The extensive software repository is a treasure trove of options for virtually any task, and the APT package management system is a joy to work with. The Debian community's dedication to open-source collaboration and support is heartening, and it's one of the reasons Debian continues to thrive.
Of course, Debian may not be for everyone. If you're chasing the latest and greatest software, you might find its conservative approach to updates a bit limiting. And while Debian can be used by beginners, it might present a steeper learning curve compared to some more user-friendly distributions. But for those who prioritize stability, reliability, and a strong commitment to open source, Debian is, without a doubt, a top-notch choice. It's the kind of distribution that earns my personal 10/10 rating for its unwavering dedication to its core principles.
Pros of Debian:
Stability: Debian is known for its rock-solid stability, making it an excellent choice for servers and mission-critical systems. It has a rigorous testing process, which ensures that packages are thoroughly reviewed and tested before being included in the stable release.
Large Software Repository: Debian has one of the largest software repositories among Linux distributions, offering a vast collection of packages for various purposes. This extensive repository ensures that you can find software for almost any task.
Strong Community: Debian has a dedicated and active community of users and developers. This community-driven approach fosters collaboration, support, and the development of high-quality open-source software.
Excellent Package Management: Debian uses the APT (Advanced Package Tool) package management system, which simplifies software installation, upgrades, and dependency resolution. It's known for being user-friendly and efficient.
Wide Hardware Support: Debian supports a wide range of hardware architectures, making it suitable for various types of systems, including older and less common hardware.
Cons of Debian:
Older Software Versions: Debian prioritizes stability over having the latest software. As a result, some packages may be outdated in the stable release, which can be a drawback for users who require cutting-edge software.
Slower Release Cycle: Debian's release cycle is not as frequent as some other distributions, such as Ubuntu. This can mean longer waits for new features and updates.
Limited Official Support: Debian doesn't offer the same level of commercial support as some other distributions like Red Hat or Ubuntu, which can be a concern for businesses seeking official support contracts.
Less User-Friendly for Beginners: Debian is often considered less user-friendly for beginners compared to some other distributions that focus on ease of use and out-of-the-box experience.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-12-06 Votes: 28
Having recently experienced the latest Debian 12 "Bookworm" Gnome Edition, I am thrilled to share my comprehensive review of this exceptional Linux distribution. From the seamless installation process to the thoughtfully selected applications and the absence of snaps in favor of the user-friendly flatpaks, Debian 12 has set a new standard in the world of Linux operating systems.
Let's start with the installation process, which was an absolute breeze. The Gnome Edition’s installer is intuitive and user-friendly, guiding me effortlessly through the setup. Within minutes, I had a fully functional system ready to explore.
One of the standout features of Debian 12 is the curated selection of applications. The choices made are practical, covering a wide array of user needs without overwhelming the system with unnecessary bloat. Additionally, the absence of snaps and the emphasis on flatpaks for software distribution is a game-changer. Flatpaks integrate seamlessly into the system, offering a convenient and hassle-free experience for users to access a diverse range of applications while maintaining system stability.
Debian 12 "Bookworm" shines brightly in terms of package freshness and kernel updates. The repositories are well-maintained and regularly updated, ensuring that users have access to the latest software releases. The up-to-date kernel further enhances system security, compatibility, and performance, reflecting the commitment of Debian to keep pace with technological advancements.
However, the star of the show undoubtedly remains the exceptional stability and performance Debian 12 delivers. The system operates smoothly, handling multitasking effortlessly while offering a responsive and fluid user experience. Despite its cutting-edge features and updated software, the stability of Debian 12 is rock-solid, making it an ideal choice for both novice and advanced users alike.
In conclusion, Debian 12 "Bookworm" Gnome Edition is a flawless release that strikes the perfect balance between innovation and reliability. Its emphasis on stability, coupled with performance enhancements and the strategic use of flatpaks, sets it apart from other distributions based on Debian. After experiencing the excellence of Debian 12, I am convinced that this will be my go-to Linux distribution, surpassing even its derivatives. If you value stability, performance, and a user-friendly experience, Debian 12 "Bookworm" should undoubtedly be your next choice.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-11-26 Votes: 49
It's true is the most stable of all distro. I have distro hopped many times over and Debian is the most reliable and most stable there is. As every linux user, we are constantly distro hopping and trying out what other distros have to offer. You will soon discover debian is way more reliable and just does what you want it to do.
Do not limit yourself by not trying other distro or by thinking debian is all that you need. But if it is the only distro that I would have, then I would choose debian.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-11-25 Votes: 63
At the very beginning of my acquaintance with Linux, I installed Open Suse, Ubuntu, Manjaro, Linux Mint.
Open Suse - after each reboot it takes a very, very long time to update the repository. Not for slow internet.
After an update, as a rule, there are always a lot of errors (it is better to update 10 days after the update is released)
A huge number of settings on which you spend a lot of time are pointless.
Ubuntu - constantly gives an error, or hangs, or the application does not respond.
The default snap installed personally dislikes me - the terrible smell of Windows influence.
Snap is a step towards limiting software review by the Linux community.
The installer will not run on older computers.
The default is Gnome. Heavy desktop. There are no settings to meet different user requirements.
Manjaro - after the next reboot the hornbeam did not start. And no information about the reason. Strange distributiv.
Linux Mint is a good distributiv. I used it on all computers for a long time.
The best solution for those looking for a Windows replacement.
Runs on older computers.
Optimal number of settings to meet different user requirements.
Debian XFCE is the final destination of my experiments.
Debian XFCE is a sign of your growing proficiency and understanding of Linux.
Use the XFCE desktop, this will allow you to create a desktop to suit your requirements and tasks.
The most optimal number of settings.
In XFCE you need to configure the context menu and panel.
For better control, you need to add a network indicator and processor load to the taskbar.
Install and run ufw.
Everything else is optional and nothing extra.
To install the latest changes, use debian-12.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso
The unique ability to create your own context menu will allow you to adapt XFCE to quickly launch programs.
I supplemented the context menu with my own programs and wrote my own file manager.
Debian with XFCE4 desktop is the most stable, reliable and user-friendly operating system!
A huge THANK YOU to all the developers and the entire DEBIAN community!
Eternal memory of Ian Murdock!
If you depend on your machine for work, install stable- currently Bookworm - 12. Either way:
Pros:
Installer is straight forward and just works. Take your time and don't get click happy.
No Snap or Flatpak OOTB
Snap and/or Flatpak can be installed/enabled if you really want to
Software is mostly vanilla, as the developer intended.
Massive repositories with thousands of packages
When one installs a package it works, usually with no further effort on the users part.
For things not in the repos there is often a .deb package available on-line.
Exteremly stable, especially if one installs, well, stable.
Endless on-line documentation, articles and how-to's available on the interweb
Though not a distribution, unstable(sid) is mostly stable and is rolling.
Cons:
Can be boring (not sure this is a con).
The website is kinda poor abd hard to navigate. It can be a challenge to find the right .iso
Plain. If you're looking for flash and wow you will have to add it yourself.
Systemd. But there is always Devuan.
Disclaimer: I've used Debian for many years (BTW) with no major hiccups.
Sid with a full XFCE DE runs in ~650MB after fresh boot. One tab of Firefox bumps it up to ~1165MB.
Version: 12 Rating: 8 Date: 2023-11-12 Votes: 19
I will give Debian an 8. I am a long time user, and find debian to be one of the best distributions there is. Debian is stable and incredibly fast!
The one place where I feel debian falls down on, is polish. In my opinion, the default install should not include a ton of games; it should be far more minimal. Also, the net install does not include a splash screen by default, and is there really any need to have a visible grub menu on startup? It's possible I'm missing the point, but to me it feels very rough round the edges.
Debian is amazing for my use case: I use it as a host machine to run virtual machines with gpu passthrough - It does not need polish for this, but as for installing on my laptop, something like fedora or ubuntu feels much more professional. It's a small thing to complain about, but I think this holds it back from being more mainstream.
I think Debian is one of the best Linux distributions out there.
- It can be solid as a rock without risk of bugs in the "stable" version or regularly updated in the "unstable" version (it's a bit misleading, because I haven't had any bugs).
- Easy to install (I just have one complaint, during installation, a lot of applications are installed, even those that are useless, and it's a little more difficult to do a minimal installation).
- Ready to use,
- The community is very kind and responsive,
- No problems.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-11-11 Votes: 14
# Use case
I have been using Debian 12 with KDE for daily production over six months (starting before its release). My device is mediocre: a mini PC from a small manufacturer, plus a few customizations by myself. Most of the time I'm browsing the web, writing/compiling texts or drawing vector graphics; occasionally I edit photos or play early-2000 games on an emulator.
# Installation and drivers
The installer was hurdle-free and has an intuitive graphical interface. It probably looks old-school, but that makes no material difference to installers of other distros.
Since my hardware is not a foolproof combination, I was really worried about the drivers. To my surprise Debian did really well. I only had an issue with my WiFi card; but it's a bug in Linux kernel and the same happens on Fedora. After I patched it, everything goes perfectly. So I think for branded hardware you don't have to worry about the drivers at all.
I must add that I prefer Debian's approach to Fedora's in patching kernel modules. In Debian it is straightforward: download the linux source and build tools using APT, patch and compile the desired module, and move it to the right location. Done. In Fedora I could not find a simple way of doing this; they seem to force you recompiling the entire kernel for only one module!
# Desktop experience
The KDE on Debian runs very smoothly and I don't have any complaint. You could definitely use it out-of-the-box. Or, if you love tweaking things like me, then you have so many options to explore. The good thing about KDE over GNOME is its customizability that does not require third party extensions. You can turn the taskbar panel into a floating dock as in macOS without installing extensions. For me it means better integration and official support.
When it comes to software, Debian offers a huge repository. I can usually find several choices for a particular task. Package management / updates with KDE Discover is time-saving. All apps that I installed are very stable thanks to Debian's long testing cycles. A small downside, of course, is that packages are a bit old. But nowadays many apps are not changing that fast in a year or two, so I think the downside is offset by the stability that it offers. For bleeding-edge apps, one can always use AppImage or Flatpak.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-11-07 Votes: 31
The stability and reliability of Debian as a Linux distro never ceases to amaze me.
I use it on my Thinkpad T480. I’ve never had any issues or glitches with its performance. To install and update apps, I use Flatpak. This helps avoid dependency problems and guarantees that I get the latest version of each application. It never gives me trouble, does everything I need it to do, and has one of the finest kernel configurations I’ve ever seen. The thing is, I feel like I’m missing the fun out of using Linux...thing’s too solid for me. Maybe I’ll try Gentoo or something else.
But hey, just because it’s not for me doesn’t mean that the team over at Debian didn’t make a great piece of software. So kudos to them!
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-11-03 Votes: 23
I have been using linux distros since 1997 and Debian 12 stable Bookworm seems to me to be the best experience so far. Fast and stable, including on a virtual server. For the workstations I installed the LXQT distribution. Everything simply works perfectly, elegant, boring stable, supports secure boot and works with proprietary firmware out of the box; read/write support for Apple’s proprietary AFPS format, and a new tool called ntfs2btrfs that can convert NTFS drives to Btrfs.PipeWire has replaced PulseAudio, and provide much better audio and video playback. Debian’s bootloader no longer runs OS-Prober but you can re-enable it again by editing "grub".
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-10-25 Votes: 77
After leaving Windows and taking my first steps in Linux world with Linux Mint and MX Linux I decided to install Debian because:
1. I wanted to use a tiling window manager (sadly I couldn't get i3wm or AwesomeWM to install on MX Linux)
2. I wanted to have a minimal desktop and avoid programs and packages I find unnecessary (e.g. HexChat and Hypnotix on Mint or some MX programs)
3. I wanted to taste vanilla Debian experience and try to learn more things about Debian
4. Rolling-release distro isn't for me because I don't think I would be able to maintain it and fix issues as they appear
I think I made the best decision possible and found a perfect distro, I am absolutely happy and satisifed. Debian is all I was looking for: a stable, reliable and peaceful distro that don't get in my way and works with no problems.
I learned to get my old HP scanner to work and I even managed to run a Windows game with Bottles (which unfortunately I couldn't run on MX)
Thank you so much Debian Team for all your hard work!
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-10-19 Votes: 48
I recently installed debian12 on my old thinkpad x230, I have 8G memory, using i5-3230M.
Frankly I'm new to Linux, and I was still using windows 7 until then. I've tried mint 21.2 but it stutters a bit and crashes sometimes. I've had a brief experience with deepin, its hardware support isn't good, and it uses too much memory, even though its Chinese support is good.
Debian is stable and smooth, and people tell me Debian needs some Linux knowledge, but the truth is that it works almost "out of the box". You only need to know a few commands, like apt update, apt upgrade.
Debian provides Chinese versions of the installation manuals and release notes, which are useful. Many distributions do not support Chinese languages, and even Ubuntu lacks some Chinese documentation.
The GNOME desktop is very different from Windows, and it took me a long time to get used to it. Gnome is very smooth, I love its clean design, and I was confused by the complicated setup of KDE. Gnome has some minor bugs, though.
On my laptop, debian12+gnome uses slightly more memory, about 1.5G; mint cinnamon is about 1.1G; and ubuntu gnome is about 1.3G.
Debian is installed on all my computers and home file storage.
At the very beginning of my acquaintance with Linux, I tried to work on different distributions of Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Open Suse, Fedora, Manjaro.
Open Suse was discarded immediately, because... The speed of my Internet connection is low, and after each reboot it took a very, very long time to update the repository.
So long that I couldn't wait to finish.
Ubuntu kept throwing an error throughout the day, or it would hang, or the application would not respond.
The default snap installed personally dislikes me - the terrible smell of Windows influence.
Snap is a step towards limiting software review by the Linux community.
I have 3 computers with an Intel D525 processor that do not run the Ubuntu installer.
Gnome becomes the heaviest and least customizable desktop.
Xubuntu - Ubuntu installer does not run on computers with a D525 processor.
Manjaro - after the next reboot the hornbeam did not start. And no information about the reason. Strange distribution.
Debian XFCE4 is the only desktop that runs reliably on any hardware.
Debian XFCE4 is your choice for the future.
The unique ability to create my own context menu allowed me to adapt XFCE to quickly solve my problems.
I supplemented the context menu with my own programs and wrote my own file manager.
Debian with XFCE4 desktop is the most stable, reliable and user-friendly operating system!
A huge THANK YOU to all the developers and the entire DEBIAN community!
Eternal memory of Ian Murdock!
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-10-09 Votes: 36
Debian is a reason to stop distro-hopping.
Debian is stable. Even the testing version is more stable than some other distros 'stable' versions.
Fedora is great if you want the latest, and use twice as much RAM.
Ubuntu is great if you don't mind being occasionally told what to do.
Arch is great if you want deep involvement with your install, or even, if you want a very stable system that you have complete control of.
But what I like aboot Debian, and why I prefer it, is that I have a rock solid stable system that I am also in control of.
Also, many applications that are not in the official repositories are available in the .deb binary format that can be installed via 'gdebi'.
Once past the original install, all it takes is setting up user permissions (e.g. make oneself 'Administrator') and setting up repository preferences (Synaptic).
Then you can add compatible repositories (backports, multimedia, other Debian based dsitros) and if need be, change their priority level in /etc/apt/preferences.d/"name". The highest number wins. (Look this up. DistroWatch is not a space for administrative tutorials.)
If you prefer the command line approach, then that can be done too.
It's not even necessary to have a desktop environment. And GUI applications can still be run without a DE.
Speaking of DE's, Debian has a multitude of choice, including my preferred LXDE, which several distros have abandoned in favour of the slower, bloated, immature LXQt.
For a live version, choose your preferred DE, including LXQt.
For an installation, I recommend the netinstall version, whereby you can install as many DE's as you like.
Be aware that whichever DE you choose will install all of the dependencies, so be prepared to do a bit of cleaning afterwards.
But simply: if you want a secure stable system, then I recommend Debian.
Many of the best distros are based upon Debian, and it's easy to customise.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-10-08 Votes: 18
Hello, I recently installed debian12 under KDE
on my mini pc “MINIS FORUM Series U700”
CPU: Core i5-5257U 4x2.7Ghz
GPU: Intel-Iris Graphcis 6100 with 8GB of RAM and everything works great.
Version: 12 Rating: 7 Date: 2023-10-06 Votes: 0
Most of the time, the software works well, updates to the stable distribution do not break things, but occasionally software updates that compromise the stability of the system or introduce regressions, which means a feature that worked in a previous version but no longer works in a later version, are allowed. I also notice that, generally speaking, the best software in the distribution tends to come from other distributions that do the heavy lifting of developing new features for the larger FLOSS community. On this point, there is no comparison between Debian and other distributions with similar goals such as Fedora. For example, Debian depends much more on software developed in the Fedora / Red Hat ecosystem than Fedora / Red Hat depends on software developed by Debian. Systemd is just one example of software that Debian depends on that was developed by another distribution, and I have experienced more systemd related problems on Debian than on Fedora where systemd was developed. There are other examples. Of course many other distributions derived from Debian depend on dpkg and apt that come from Debian, so this adds a couple of points to Debian's rating. This adds up to what I would call an above average distribution but not the very best, so Debian earns a 7 out 10 ranking.
Pros: Large number of packages in repository, plenty of help available online, both officially from Debian and from users on other sites such as personal blogs and how-to guides.
Cons: Not all packages are equally supported, some bugs that are reported against packages in the distribution never get fixed even when a fix is identified by user reports to the Debian Bug Tracking System, and this happens much more often in Debian than in other distributions I have used.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-09-27 Votes: 39
On a Dell Latitude, home desktop use:
Upgrade from 11, bullseye was smooth, not one problem.
Later on I decided to do a clean install since this system was years old. This laptop had run on the warm side since day one. I had replaced Windows with Debian upon purchase. After the clean install the logged temps dropped around 20-25°F. I was pleasantly surprised. There may be a slight increase in speed, I can't say for sure.
For home use, browsing, emailing, home banking, a small home business, etc., it's perfect.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-09-24 Votes: 82
Since Debian 12 was available for download it has been running smoothly. No problems so far, on Intel
platform. Wayland is also getting better and better and works well under KDE Plasma.
Debian is brilliant operating system:
1) it is perfectly stable;
2) it is endlessly flexible and customizable;
3) offers a wide range of software;
4) boots in 3 seconds (SSD disk);
5) uses little RAM and CPU, even under KDE;
6) offers many ways to install;
7) easy to add new repositories;
8) if some hardware is not supported out of the box, it is generally very easy
to add that same support, install drivers etc.
9) proxy servers and firewalls run very well under Debian;
10) all f-keys work out of the box, audio and brightness control;
11) font rendering is great (hinting=none makes it perfect);
12) very easy to install commercial software, like Bitdefender Endpoint Protection, Master pdf Editor, and
many more;
13) security tests give good result
Debian is probably the best operating system I have ever used and have tried most of them, Windows,
various UNIX systems, and many Linux systems.
Keep up the good work Debian. Thanks.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-09-22 Votes: 28
Initially I was very reticent to use it. It was hard to set up and configure, especially to my liking and needs, so I looked elsewhere. I hopped onto so many distros, from Debian kids and grandkids to OpenSUSE to Manjaro to Arch to Fedora, and then I settled. But it still bothered me. Fedora was good, but was not giving me the satisfaction I wanted.
Next I tried Pop! OS and NixOS, and I loved them both. But I wasn't a happy camper yet.
Finally I decided to take the time tunnel, draw inspiration from my original mentors, download the ISO, and make it work. I installed it countless times on a VM, every time trying something new: different disk layouts; different FS formats; encryption or no encryption, and what partitions to encrypt; different DEs; no DEs. You name it, I tried it.
And kept the lessons.
So here I am, running Debian Bookworm with Gnome on an encrypted BTRFS partition with Timeshift on my old faithful desktop. I preferred this configuration because my desktop also serves as a home server, and rebooting it after most updates, especially when they come too frequently, is an annoyance. It's rock solid and everything works. Couldn't be happier.
On my laptop, it's a different story. I opted for Debian Testing. Although updates come quite often, a full reboot isn't always required. The only problem is that, whenever it comes out of hibernation, I need to enter three passwords: one to unlock the root partition, one to unlock swap, and one to restore my session. If you think of it, it's a very small price to pay when you take security into consideration. Likewise, I have an encrypted BTRFS partition with Timeshift, but also an encrypted swap partition. It's also rock solid and everything works.
Oh, I didn't mention the DE on the laptop… I have Gnome, i3, Sway, Qtile, herbstluftwm, and dwm.
As I look back (and sideways), I don't regret getting in earlier. I prefer to think that all the experience I got with the past distros helped prepare and shape me for this final upgrade.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-09-21 Votes: 23
After some times on rpm distros (OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, mostly), I needed some stable (not abruptly changing) distro.
Debian was an obvious choice, and with version 12 it's some smooth desktop experience: it works like a charm; it finds my printer; it's actually customizable; it finds my printer: it can be extremely minimal or it can be as "bloated" as you wish; it finds my printer; it's snappy and light on my medium-low hardware.
Oh, and it finds my printer.
The only thing I'm missing from Tumbleweed is it's wonderful font rendering.
Version: 12 Rating: 3 Date: 2023-09-17 Votes: 1
The full dvd installer was horrible. Kept on not detecting my system. Had to keep going back to do it over.
I tried the live version and installed it from there a lot easier.
It was ok until my wifi router blocked a malicious outgoing attempt to somewhere in France. Apparently the iptables firewall is set to allow everything in and out. So what's the point??
That was enough for me to remove it-no thanks
The kde desktop worked great though.
The installer set my same password for user and root although I had left that box unchecked. I was never asked to create a root user.
Version: 12 Rating: 2 Date: 2023-09-16 Votes: 0
Bookworm? Rather like crap!
WORST DEBIAN EVER!
Disclaimer: Okay, I have to admit that I use KDE and Wayland ;) but this horror show is anything but debian.
Some "highlights":
++ seems pretty energy efficient (35W idle instead of 40+)
+ install was nice and quick
+ better hardware accleration (well, blame the kernel)
-- ksysguard is gone and the replacement is horrible (even if you try to tune it or download presests)
-- hhd timeout 3hrs per gonme disks but it is NOT respected by OS
-- tried X11 instead but now my keyboard layout was stuck on US
-- many inconsistencies like accept neither pw (root, user)
-- sound screws up, especially with other apps (even nzbget), trying to rectify it I had a memory full instead ( at 64GB!)... reboot!
-- discovery is no good for installing anything (does not even show all packages, eg 7zip)
-- discovery does not show software available in apt-get, what is that good for anyway?
- no proper way to include LUKS partitions at installer
- Apper does not work any more as does not ask for pw
- Gwenview does not scale properly in Wayland or broken or both
- apps dont remember positions
- still the same stupid presets in KDE (not dark, no doubleclick, losing focus etc)
- smallest cursor on HiDPI like 4k
- mpv starts copying from SMB instead of playing (and so will SMPlayer)
- task switcher reduced to one preset called breeze (and no booklet, not anything else)
- restore session is preset but does not work for most apps
- dolphin still has no filter bar by default
- hstr not installed by default (not anymore)
- KDE layout has mostly become more wasteful and ugly (like windows10, title bar etc)
- still the most shitty player as default: dragon player instead of mpv or vlc
And last, but not least:
~ crappy baloo not on by default (well, depends on what you think of it, anyway)
Hoped for trying it out to see any improvements but gee! the multitude of scrwups in this release leaves me longing for my imperfect but finely tuned Bullseye.
Summary: FRANKENDEBIAN! If you are on a previous version, skip this version or at least wait half a year! I'd go back but I shot my boot partition (had backed up all the data but this one), especially if you are into KDE. Too much work to work around the flaws :( If there is no need to switch, then wait for D13. WIth that many fails, one star for trying and one for some minor improvements.
PS: Debian, how could let this one pass? I know many things are KDE but still how could you?
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-09-13 Votes: 53
With Debian 12, other derivatives distro looks surplus
It is responsive with my 12 years old hardware, and It can handle all my daily works and gaming. Also one of the advantage is it has no bloatware and it is a real light-weight distro. Needless to say, it is ultra stable.
I will keep using it and perhaps I have no need to upgrade to Windows 11, as my computer is still in good shape. I can see hope out of the bond from Microsoft.
Hope Debian Team can keep up the good work and wish them success
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-09-12 Votes: 15
My experience with Debian 12 has been extremely positive so far. This operating system combines stability, performance, customization, and a vast software ecosystem in a way that caters to all my needs. If you're looking for a reliable and highly enjoyable Linux experience, Debian 12 is definitely an excellent choice. I look forward to seeing how Debian will continue to evolve and improve in the future.
One of the first things I noticed was the solid performance of Debian 12. Even on older hardware, the operating system is fast and responsive. Boot times are quick, applications open without noticeable delays, and the overall user experience is smooth and efficient.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-09-12 Votes: 8
Debian12 is the new Ubuntu. You can set up your environment in Debian very easily and Nvidia drivers can be installed with single line command. I tried many Distro but settled on Debian. Debian just works. Its like fill it, shut it, forget it.
Fedora is an abomination , I couldn't even get nvidia installed.
Arch is for masochist. I tried installing Virt manager in arch and it took me many arch wiki articles and youtube videos to do it meanwhile in Debian I clicked the install button from synaptic store and it just did the rest.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-09-11 Votes: 7
The story goes like this. I have a 2006 macpro and the performance of the user interface of this granny is really smooth. I also have a 2011 PC with triple the specs and the linux graphical environments lag like hell. 3 weeks ago I decided to try Debian 12 Gnome. The revelation was liberating! The most heavy of the linux desktop environments (Gnome) now had the smoothest performance of all. Even when the memory usage was hitting the limits, the motion effects and overall responsiveness reminded me of the comfort and responsiveness of macosx BigSur. So I started cleaning the language bloatware (for which I hated this distro) with great pleasure. I installed extreme packages like wine-staging, changed the sound system to Pipewire and suddenly I got a PC with a user interface worthy of commercial ones. I use it for pro-audio (mixing/mastering) with Reaper, front and backend development (javaEE-springboot etc), social authoring. Fortunately, since Debian is a point release, I can keep this wonderful system supported for 5 years! I want to thank the Debian developers for their wonderful work and the ultimate tool they have generously given us.
-->Installed on 2011 AMD 8core, ATI Radeon Graphics Card, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-09-06 Votes: 25
best distribuition of linux!!
I tried on my laptop and everything was reconized OOTB, also I only needed to install flatpak and uninstall the insane amount of games Debian ships with GNOME, replace some apps with their flatpak equivalents and everything was ready to go
First, Debian stable is to be honest boringly stable (which is good) and Second, the battery life is amazing on my laptop (10th gen Intel, with TLP installed helped even more)
This release is a huge upgrade compared to 11 with the ugly GNOME 3.38 and even more so that non-free firmware comes pre-installed, very fast, smooth and not too resource hungry at all
I've been using Debian Testing for years and so far everything is working as expected. Only the RTL8821CE wireless card doesn't work out of the box. However, user tomaspinho's contribution on GitHub successfully solves the problem. In general the system runs fast and stable.
Configuration of my humble notebook:
OS: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid x86_64
Host: VivoBook 15_ASUS Laptop X540UAR 1.0
DE: MATE 1.26.1
CPU: Intel i3-7020U (4) @ 2.300GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 620
I just have to thank the Debian community for the excellent work.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-08-29 Votes: 50
Debian right now is as friendly as it has ever been in my opinion
I tried on my laptop and everything was reconized OOTB, also I only needed to install flatpak and uninstall the insane amount of games Debian ships with GNOME, replace some apps with their flatpak equivalents and everything was ready to go
First, Debian stable is to be honest boringly stable (which is good) and Second, the battery life is amazing on my laptop (10th gen Intel, with TLP installed helped even more)
This release is a huge upgrade compared to 11 with the ugly GNOME 3.38 and even more so that non-free firmware comes pre-installed, very fast, smooth and not too resource hungry at all
Version: 12 Rating: 5 Date: 2023-08-28 Votes: 2
Due to favorable reviews I decided to bite the bullet and fully install Debian 12 on my Mint 20.3 secondary desktop. Once I found the ISO on their 90's looking website, I burned it to a USB and started the installation process. I was immediately presented with a installation display that was not centered in the monitor, but instead was pushed so far to the right that the 'Continue' button at the bottom right only showed up as a 'Con' button. I went ahead with the installation anyway, was presented with a few more options than I was used to with Mint, set up both my root password and user password as requested, and was finally, after what seemed like a time consuming process, told to reboot into my brand new Linux desktop.
It rebooted very quickly into my chosen Cinnamon DE, and it was beautiful. I set about checking menu items to see what was there, set the date and time display to my liking, configured Firefox the way I wanted it, and tweaked a few other minor things. I then opened the terminal and and entered the command to update/upgrade. Bzzzzttt, it wouldn't allow me to do that even after trying both passwords. I got an error saying I didn't belong to the sudoers list. I don't recall ever seeing that error on any other full linux distro I've done, so I searched the net for a solution. Apparently I was to open a configuration file and add myself to the sudoers list. Now I'm certainly able to do that, but I shouldn't have to.
It was at that point that I realized if the distro didn't recognize my monitor resolution, and I had to google a solution to a significant issue I'd never encountered before in the first few minutes of a full installation, then maybe that installation isn't for me. I'm nearly 70, and shouldn't have to tinker with configuration files to be able to update my Linux desktop.
I then burned Mint 21.2 to another USB and proceeded with a full install that was error free, very fast, and didn't require tweaks to configuration files to get an update to work from the terminal. I likely would have given Debian 12 a much higher rating had it worked smoothly out of the box. It sure looked nice.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-08-24 Votes: 21
install on old pc
CM: asrock z77e-itx
CPU: I5 3570K, 16gb ram
GPU: GTX 1660 S with 6GB of memory
IibreOffice in French, recognizes my printer (Lexmark_CS417dn)
Graphics driver they install very easily : )
is after installing Steam, I run 2 games without problem! (Valheim, Elite Dangerous)
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2023-08-24 Votes: 11
Once you get past the network install you find a OS that is very good but also rather typical in terms of feeling that if I installed Fedora I could basically get the same experience. Yes, Gnome is perfectly fine, I actually find it refreshing coming from using Mac's and Windows 10. Not saying its better just different and not in a bad way. I get many of the same typical error logs I get in almost any Linux install. I have come to understand that most PC come with Windows and that is all the hardware makers bother to test. If it works in Windows its good to go. My issues come with the dreaded wireless card from Realtek this time a rather no name branded chip soldered into the Mini PC I bought from Geekom. Sadly, Geekom claimed it had a Intel wireless chip but apparently they used whatever was cheapest that manufacturing sequence. At least there is a driver that mostly works in 5Ghz band although not very fast or reliably. I have a LAN drop so plan to hook up to that but again another Reaktek chip for LAN as well. The mini PC will be mostly a last resort sort of PC in my house, something to just do basic tasks with. Windows 11 was way to heavy for this mini PC with a Celeron CPU albeit a 4 core model. The best thing I could do performance wise was to wipe Windows 11 and try some Linux distributions.
Like I said, Debian isn't really special its just one of the more stable desktop Linux out there. I don't like where Ubuntu is going, I also felt Mint was too unstable and don't care to dabble in Arch Linux at all.
It really comes down for me to Fedora or Debian and I chose Debian.
I am not a programmer, just a long-time Linux-user who exclusively uses Linux-desktops and laptops for work (in humanities at a University) and at home. Since the 1990s, I tried out four different distro's and three desktops. I started with SuSE (KDE 3), then (due to the KDE 4-catastrophy) migrated to Ubuntu (Gnome), and then (due to toe Ubuntu'x experiment with Unity) to Debian (LxDE). When I got a new Lenovo T14 (AMD) Laptop, I was forced to switch to Fedora (LxDE) for some time, for Debian did not yet support the new hardware, but I was never able to get rid of a couple of problems. Hence I just switched back to Debian (again LxDE) and it works like a charm, just as I expected given my earlier experiences.
It is the most reliable and stable of the distro's I have used. It does not install unnecessary stuff and does not eat up unnecessary resources. It is also quite flexible and you find a lot of documentation online. Life-usb's allow you to try out whether everything works as it should, and if it does, installation from within the life-system is quite easy (encryption included), as is the regular installation procedure.
It is some time ago that I tried other desktops (since I am used to LxDE by now and it is easy to configure to introduce some sort of tiling-options, shortcuts etc), so I don't know how smooth they work. For me, however, Debian / LxDE / Kupfer (an old but fast and powerful launcher) and Recoll (for indexing full-text and desktop-search) is the perfect combination to get your work done and not be distracted by either bugs or glitzy features.
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2023-08-11 Votes: 34
There were three bugs so far. One was of Flatpak and, thus, not regarded to its base. The other one was of the Acer’s UEFI. Unrelated too. I’ve been using Debian 12 for months as a workstation and have zero to complain of it.
The non-free firmware upheaval created a netinstall easier than that of Windows. In the second case, the UI remains totally not user friendly. It is ironic that the acclaimed easiest operating system is unnecessarily harder to get to run.
Live ISOs, which are a lot simpler to do their job, still are harder to find at debian.org. This is the sole reason I can’t give it a 10. If this problem wasn’t present, it could be a splendid choice for a beginner distro.
Version: 12 Rating: 8 Date: 2023-08-10 Votes: 5
First thing that happened after installing Debian 12 was getting this annoying message over and over: N: Repository 'Debian bookworm' changed its 'firmware component' value from 'non-free' to 'non-free-firmware' and figured this might go away after a few weeks when they roll out a upgrade, never bothered with making a config file to turn it off, but I had to it after 3 weeks was way too annoying.
Then everything seemed to work just as Debian should for a week or two and then those hellish Raspi error message started, so took a look on Debian's forum to see what to do about them and there were a bunch of threads and everyone had a different solution, but ONLY one worked for me and that was to purge Raspi. Mind you that this is supposed to be Debian STABLE, why was the buggish Raspi even there in the first place? These two negative things, which some would consider minor, made me feel meh towards Debian, and I've always loved Debian. I had a better experience with the flawless Debian 11, also why in the world is 12 slower than 11?
And lastly.. Debian's website is still a nightmare!
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2023-08-09 Votes: 16
Readers be forewarned that I am a Linux newb and that my review may not satisfy what you are looking for in one.
I have been using Linux for a couple of years now. I first started with Mint 20.1, I think. What a great experience that was. It breathed new life into my PC. There were some bumps along the road, but mostly, software breaking was my fault rather than the distro's.
Recently, I accidentally wiped out Windows 7 while distrohopping. (Luckily, the HDDs were accessible from the new distro, so I backed up my important files.) I then installed Windows 10. ... It broke within five hours. So I decided to totally start anew with a new Linux install over everything.
I tried a few distros, but none were polished enough for my liking. I tried going back to Mint, and installed 21.2 "Victoria". Everything was wrong. The stability, the cohesion was totally gone. Menus would break; I could not even shut down the computer! Senseless changes were forced onto the userbase. Worst of all, it lagged like nothing else. Not even Windows 10 lagged this much during its five-hour lifespan.
Distraught, I spent a while trying to figure out what distro to use. Eventually, I settled on Debian. I had heard that the new update made Debian a distro par excellence. So I took a dive, and voila! it has been an amazing experience so far.
Using the KDE desktop instead of Cinnamon or Gnome, I find that everything looks pretty and the workflow is great. UIs are mostly cohesive. And the system has not broken on me, or caused extreme lag for no reason. I have only experienced one bug so far--if that is what it is--: I cannot upgrade to LibreOffice 7.5 or whatever it is. The KDE LibreOffice integration software, which I am told not to uninstall, prevents me from fully uninstalling LibreOffice. But I can look past this.
Debian is now what Mint once was: a visually attractive, beginner-friendly, fast, and STABLE experience. I'm defecting!
I installed Debian 12 as soon as it came out with the declared bugs and migrating from Mint Vera. I wanted an environment that offered Wayland and Pipewire and decided that Gnome offered it with fewer bugs than KDE. Ubuntu was ruled out because of its Snaps policy, I can't run WebullDesktop on Manjaro or Arch, neither can Fedora, and RedHat's free software policy is becoming dubious. OpenSuse is difficult for me with Zipper and Yay at the same time. The truth is that Debian 12 worked like a custom glove for me, the bugs announced were not a big deal and the update to 12.1 was done without any pain. I finally decided that I wanted a more current Wayland dot and I wanted a more current Pipewire and I changed the repositories to Trixie testing minus the security update repository which I left in Debian 12. This is great...Very happy, I hope Trixie be as stable as Bookworm, that's a risk I take. Negative? It's just that the subvolumes for Timeshift are not created by default like they are in Linux Mint.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-08-01 Votes: 51
We have used Debian or a spin off for about 19 years.
If your a Windows person it probably will be VERY confusing and a big jump to change to Linux.
I started with Root and Boot disks on 3.5" disks.
You would put the Boot disk in then the Root disk in.
It was terminal based only.
When package managers came in it was wonderful.
I could never get many apps to install.
I have told some one that I have root plus lots of info and I could not get a app to install!
No wonder there wasn't any malware on Linux.
I have tried many distros and have three favorites.
Debian, Fedora and Xubuntu.
I love the Linux distros because of their speed, security and configurability.
I dropped from Windows because of the malware, limited configurability.
When I first made the change it was very scary, it felt very foreign!
I was afraid of data corruption and many other things.
Funny, now when I use Windows it fells very foreign!
It also feels very cramped, restricted and controlled by others.
Debian is one of the fastest. Have had no problems with security.
I have one major grievance with Debian.
Why so many methods of installing it?
It seems three or four would be plenty.
Linux works with a great deal of hard ware.
You can not beat its security, speed or configurability.
You will have to learn stuff.
Comes with all kinds of languages to program in.
Perl, Python, C, and a favorite BASH.
Give Linux a try!!
Thanks to all that support Linux!
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-07-31 Votes: 35
Installed Debian on 5 different partitions recently. Being using Debian for the past many years with great success. Version 12 is even better than the previous ones. The first thing you notice is the tremendous speed of start-up and shut-down. Debian 12 is lightning fast. Boot is hardly more than 3 seconds! I run all Debian systems on both XFS (for /) and Ext4 (/home; /boot).
I have been using XFS for approx. 15 years with great results. It always does well. The Debian installer is one of the very best available in the computer world. Offers a lot of options. Graphical interface, installing in shell (without mouse), "automatic" vs. "manual", a selection of file systems [could actually also have the option of a UFS2 file system], and "Expert mode". It offers many more options than generally need to be used.
This device has never failed in the many Debian installations I've done, over two decades. Started using Linux in the early 2000's and stuck with it ever since.
Debian 12 automatically installs both WiFi firmware and CPU microcode. You can hardly think of a more convenient operating system, faster, more stable and more flexible than Debian.
Works very well e.g. with KDE5 Plasma and Cinnamon. Have used both interfaces with great success.
However, there are a few things to consider.
Take a good look at font rendering, which is a simple matter. Consider installing "rkhunter" and "chkrootkit". Also on Thinkpad: tp_smapi, acpi-call-dkms,
Privoxy proxy server (forward proxy server) and Nftables (firewall, good information online and easy to configure).
It is also good idea to install Timeshift and take a system backup with it.
This allows the entire system to be restored from scratch, IF something goes wrong (has never happened to me).
How long can good get better?
Thank you. Best wishes.
Version: 12 Rating: 1 Date: 2023-07-29 Votes: 0
It is unbelievable that Debian has 2 different graphical installers (plus the curses installer) that are very incapable of allowing to set up multiple BtrFS subvolumes on different disks. So much hype around Debian and yet you can’t setup multiple BtrFS subvolumes on any of the terrible installers without “tricking” the installer in Expert Install mode which is very ridiculous (and tedious). Even worse, there is no documentation on how to set up multiple BtrFS subvolumes on different disks properly (Google, DuckDuckGo, Luxxle searches are useless).
Save yourselves the headaches and trouble and go to a different distro that has better support of BtrFS on the installer (ex. MX Linux).
Who knows, maybe in 10 (or more) years the developers of Debian might add some support for BtrFS subvolumes on its ancient installer (if it’s even possible)…
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-07-28 Votes: 40
All my computers and laptops have Debian installed.
Debian is a stable operating system, even on older slow computers.
Debian is the end result of everyone who tries to work on other systems.
Debian is a measure of your professionalism and understanding of Linux.
Use the XFCE desktop, this will allow you to create a desktop for your needs.
In XFCE, you need to configure the context menu and the panel.
For better control over your computer, you need to add a network indicator and processor load to the panel
Install and run ufw.
Everything else is optional and nothing more.
Use debian-12.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install the latest changes during installation
Thanks to the Debian developers and the community.
Version: 12 Rating: 8 Date: 2023-07-24 Votes: 0
I started Linux in 2010 with Ubuntu.
Switched to Manjaro in 2014 so I would have reasonably recent versions of libreoffice that did not damage docx-files with pictures. Used it on 2 laptops and 2 media-centres (Kodi, NAs etc.) with the family.
Got a chromebook in 2016. Discovered I could do my work in Crostini in 2017/2018. Ran devian 9, 10 and 11 in my chromebook.
Got a Win-laptop from employer and discovered I could use wsl to do my work in linux, opted for debian because Win handles the install and low-level hardware access, so I did not need installer.
Discovered most apps now have appimages or make *.deb versions available (aside from tar-based like TOR-browser) so there was no need for "rolling" so I switched media-centres to debian.
2023: Now run debian on media-servers with and run linux 12 in WSL2 and Crostini and mixed chromeOS and W10/11 clients.
Debian 12 has been stable and reliable for me. With the kids mainly on ChromeOS and my work possible from most platforms (employer keeps sending emails ChromeOS may no longer access Employer's environment, but so far MS-Edge in linux allows sync-ing and I can use wsl2 apps ion one drive data. ).
I like Debian 12 a lot.
I only think Debian should make a simple fully encrypted install without needing to write to grub or other media available. At this moment the install is "experts only".
Version: 12 Rating: 5 Date: 2023-07-24 Votes: 1
Old time Debian user and admin. Some of the decisions in the past few years have not been user friendly. The latest with the apt-key fiasco has forced me away. Yes I understand 'why' it was deprecated. There is no shortage of search results for "why". There is however a total lack of "do this to fix it". There are plenty of examples including links to other sites and other projects or just "example.com" but this doesn't help when you are trying to locate the actual key the packages are signed with. Then when you finally locate them the shabby instruction found all over the internet doesn't resolve the issue. This really makes it look more like the repos were compromised rather than this being a "planned deprecation". Also... if you are going to deprecate something that could potentially break many systems in the wild. Should you not have another solution in place prior to the deprecation? Maybe we are waiting on systemd-key to take up the slack!? Debian... I have been with you for decades... this however above and beyond systemd... is the straw...
Version: 12 Rating: 8 Date: 2023-07-23 Votes: 0
there are two things that I don't like which prevent me to give 10:
- Net installer takes so much time to download and install the software packages (about 7h to complete a Debian12 + MATE)
- Performances of my network connection are worse than Ubuntu, this makes me think that there is something in iwlwifi module very inefficient in default configuration
For the rest I like it, I am used to Ubuntu and now I can have an Ubuntu without all the commercial crappyness mounted by Canonical (snapd is evil)
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-07-22 Votes: 18
Debian: pure and simple: customize to your heart's content.
PROS:
It's Debian, and many applications are available in .deb format.
CONS:
Calamares installer insists upon creating 2x RAM as swap. Use the netinstall or standard Debian Installer from boot instead.
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Use the netinstaller, and build your desired Debian from there. It's faster than the live installer.
Add useful repositories to customize further.
Debian allows you to build your own unique distro.
Use Linux Live Kit to achieve this.
Give something back, even if it's only a script.
Done.
Version: 12 Rating: 10 Date: 2023-07-18 Votes: 24
Debian 12 XFCE is running smoothly on my Thinkpad thus far. I opted for a clean install rather than upgrade from 11.7 because I had introduced some testing and unstable bits to 11.7. Everything in stable is serving me well though I have installed Firefox from unstable only because the ESR version gets stale too quickly for my taste. I like having the non-free repo by default. It's nice to have functional wifi and graphics from the start, though that never seemed too hard to resolve by obtaining the correct firmware bits. Debian takes a little fiddling as compared to some distros (Ubuntu-based distros, for example) but this creates an opportunity to learn something about what is actually happening. For those not inclined to fiddle with things from time to time, Debian might not be the right answer. For those who want a fairly straightforward and functional system without a lot of extra bells and whistles, I'd say give it a try.
Version: 12 Rating: 9 Date: 2023-07-15 Votes: 10
If I'm rating it out of ten, then I must say that version 12 has been very solid for me so far. The inclusion of the non-free-firmware repo by default is nice, and the upgrade went smoothly on my server. On my desktop however, the upgrade didn't go very smoothly. I'll chalk this up to issues with Debian 11 though, since the issues I had upgrading were issues left over from my previous Debian 11 install.
Debian 12 does work fine on my desktop when installed from scratch, however I've had issues for a while now with the "wait, menu, wait, menu" style installer rubs me the wrong way.
To me, Debian 12 feels like an extension of Debian 11, but with ease-of-use optimizations. Adding the non-free-firmware repo is very nice, especially for someone with an Intel Wireless card in their PC. When the official distro adds better support for stuff like this, it makes it much more usable, since solutions to problems don't have to be so hacky, which leads to less problems.
A heavy con of Debian in general, continued into 12 is the package manager. Apt is easy to use, so I have no issue with that, but my problem with Debian's handling of the package manager is its lack of good non-free support. Apps like VS Code, Docker, Tailscale, and Spotify (just to name a few) all have to separately be added to /etc/apt/sources.list.d, which makes them more annoying to keep up with, and they heavily slow down apt update. This could easily be fixed by including flatpak, although the Debian team doesn't seem to be too keen on this. Flatpak CAN be installed, but they make it more annoying than a distro like Fedora, or Arch. If Debian kept a better closed-source software repo, or better support than flatpak, I would find Debian much more useful as a desktop distro.
Of course, on a server, none of this is really much of a problem, but it's still annoying nonetheless.
Overall, even while not being too much different than Debian 11, I really think that Debian 12 is a step in the right direction, and makes me much more optimistic about Debian, and makes me feel much more likely to reconsider it as my main distro, although the poor closed source/flatpak support sours this.
Version: 12 Rating: 6 Date: 2023-07-14 Votes: 0
With all the hype around Debian 12 I decided to distro hop to give it a try.
First installed DVD ISO via USB thumb drive. Picked internet repo, completed install, disconnected USB thumb drive, rebooted back to desktop, attempted to install from software store but it kept throwing errors trying to load from USB thumb drive. Why?
Reinstalling via net installer corrects previous issue but trying to install some common test softwares fail. sudo apt-get update fails so does su, apt-get update.
Not a fan of the default Gnome desktop environment either since it takes some getting used to.
At this point thinking about the saying about avoiding .0 releases so decided to give 11.7 a try. Hit another roadblock when it couldn't load WIFI drivers during install. Apparently, they're not included with 11.7 DVD ISO or net installer like with 12. After some digging found hidden 11.7 ISO with non-free drivers plus Cinnamon DE that successfully installs along with test software.
Final verdict is if you're interested in Debian stick with 11.7 but use ISO with non-free drivers if your device is fairly recent within a few years. Personally, going back to Linux Mint since it "just works" without jumping through hoops.
Debian 12 XFCE is running smoothly on my Thinkpad thus far. I opted for a clean install rather than upgrade from 11.7 because I had introduced some testing and unstable bits to 11.7. Everything in stable is serving me well though I have installed Firefox from unstable only because the ESR version gets stale too quickly for my taste. I like having the non-free repo by default. It's nice to have functional wifi and graphics from the start, though that never seemed too hard to resolve by obtaining the correct firmware bits. Debian takes a little fiddling as compared to some distros (Ubuntu-based distros, for example) but this creates an opportunity to learn something about what is actually happening. For those not inclined to fiddle with things from time to time, Debian might not be the right answer. For those who want a fairly straightforward and functional system without a lot of extra bells and whistles, I'd say give it a try.
It's probably the most well-rounded distribution out there. I had no problem with my hardware and most of my applications and utilities were running smoothly and very stable. It's the fastest distribution I've tried. The only nitpick I found is that the KDE Plasma experience isn't the best, especially if you compare it to Fedora which has a better setup but is more unstable than Debian. KDE Plasma should be more minimal but the installer will bloat the system with some unnecessary [for some people] applications. Other than that, It is the most enjoyable Linux experience I've had and I will stick to it.
It's probably the most well-rounded distribution out there. I had no problem with my hardware and most of my applications and utilities were running smoothly and very stable. It's the fastest distribution I've tried. The only nitpick I found is that the KDE Plasma experience isn't the best, especially if you compare it to Fedora which has a better setup but is more unstable than Debian. KDE Plasma should be more minimal but the installer will bloat the system with some unnecessary [for some people] applications. Other than that, It is the most enjoyable Linux experience I've had and I will stick to it.
It's probably the most well-rounded distribution out there. I had no problem with my hardware and most of my applications and utilities were running smoothly and very stable. It's the fastest distribution I've tried. The only nitpick I found is that the KDE Plasma experience isn't the best, especially if you compare it to Fedora which has a better setup but is more unstable than Debian. KDE Plasma should be more minimal but the installer will bloat the system with some unnecessary [for some people] applications. Other than that, It is the most enjoyable Linux experience I've had and I will stick to it.
This is the first distro where I was able to install on cutting-edge hardware and almost everything worked perfectly, out of the box. It's rock solid and gives you only what you need. I would have given higher than 9/10 if everything had just worked, and the community was more engaging on the forums. However, due to the popularity you can find anything you need pretty quickly by searching. Market adoption is a big deal for me and clearly people love Debian, so getting help is pretty quick and easy
This feels and operates like a half-baked Linux distro. The screen does not redraw unless a keyboard key is pushed. It then updates one frame. Had to resort to constantly pushing keyboard keys to redraw the screen. I tried a few suggestions I found online but nothing worked. My best guess is that it has something to do with Wayland?
I've used other Linux distros and never encountered any problems like this. This wasn't fancy hardware either. It was older hardware and no NVDIA graphics card. I had to switch back to something I know is stable like Xubuntu or MX Linux.
most super computers use linux as their operating system
quite a few linux o.s. are debian based
debian is non-proprietary
i finally tried debian 7 or 8 years ago and have been happy with it ever since
install and forget about it...
if you wish to modify any o.s. you need to ensure parts are compatible, like anything else, ya cant put a six bolt wheel rim on a vehicle designed with 5 bolts...so reading the manual is just one small step before you ...make improvements
short and sweet i had to add this line to make up the required 250 word minimum on this review
Debian is not for everyone. Although it has become very user-friendly in its latest versions, if you don't know what you're doing, Debian will break. There is a problem with all Linux distributions, which is Wayland. This does not work properly on any distro that I know of. I recommend using X11 for any distribution. This "Wayland" project, for me, is something that is not ready enough to be operated. Now, Debian is by far the best distribution out there. I can say that. I have been using Debian since Sarge 3.1 in 2005 and I don't know anything better than Debian.
I installed fresh yesterday, all seemed okay, until it required me to do an upgrade. Then I did the upgrade. I rebooted and still all seemed okay. I used the pc as normal, and also browsed the web with firefox ESR, but I noticed many many many freezes within firefox, that needed to be terminated via xkill.... Very unsatisfying.
So I ended my day, powered off my pc... First thing I saw that it wasnt powering off, it was waiting on a service for 1min 30s to turn off... Next morning (today) I turned my pc on, and it wasn't booting at all. It said some error message: VFS ext4 not found. Wtf? Debian just killed itself overnight?
Ok so, documentation is poor, website is ugly, debian is definitely not stable.
Since it's release last year to April of this year I had been using Debian 12. But after installing Mupen64 (via Gnome software) and updating my system (via terminal) Debian broke on me. Yes, that's right. Debian, the legendary, the most stable of all Linux distros broke. Before that it ran flawlessly for 10 straight months. I was really sad when it broke on me but looking back I can't say my experience using Debian was all that great.
Debian's installer is weird and confusing, it's website is also weird and has poor documentation, apt packages are old so I had to flatpak a bunch of things, Gnome login screen is buggy, and Firefox ESR is terrible (Yes I know that now there is an official Debian version of Firefox and I was using it). Before putting up with all these drawbacks was worth it because I kept telling myself "But Debian is stable". But after it broke (just like all the the distros based off it) I had to move on to Gentoo.
I think my laptop is just really sensitive or something, I know that more many people Debian is stable, just not in my case. Maybe installing Mupen64 via Gnome software caused the problem (I doubt it tho).
-Pros-
stable for the most part
fast
super easy to maintain
classic distros that has a great community behind it
-Cons-
terrible installer that's confusing to use and doesn't always work
apt packages are old
website is weird
Firefox ESR needs to go
I have been using linux Mint for the past two years. First, Lmde 5, which after a month of use and after updating the kernel could no longer boot. I switched to a Ubuntu based linux Mint which after a kernel update about a month ago also failed to boot. I have installed Debian 12 Gnome DE which by default works with the Weyland window manager. The problem with Weyland is that flatplak applications (not all, about half) do not open windows in the right size (proportion) the letters are small, hard to read so I switched to X11 window manager and now everything works just as it should. Weyland uses about 100 mb of ram memory less and is a shade faster than X11. But it doesn't bother me because with X11 everything works perfectly and so I will continue to use my Debian with X11 window manager. I am very happy with Debian because it works stable and reliable. I think my search for a linux distribution to use permanently is over and Debian is my final choice.
Thank you Debian developers , you solved my laptop / external screen issues I had with other distros , including windows previously. This is a proper distro with no problems whatsoever , it just works on both nvidia and Iris xfe graphics cards as the cards should perform. Nice fast dependable operation , no more constant maintenance like Arch based distros. Great improvement for me. Would recommend this distro to anyone who just want to get on with their daily computing taskings without having to worry about constant repairs caused by instability after unnecessary , immediate , not properly tested updates in other distros.
If you do not want to have problems, your only option is Debian distribution.
Nvidia P1000 and AMD RX580 wine dual graphics card, kernel and you will get rid of many other troubles.
I have been using Kernel Linux from 1992 when I had 10 years old
No matter what distribution I tried, I always no problems.
I haven't done any maintenance or repairs to the computer or dusted the fan for a long time.
Still, it works like the Sun. Quiet and extremely fast.
Maximum RAM usage when the computer is idle is 128MB, I have 512 GB of RAM
there is no problem. None of the updates I received caused any problems on my computer. My mind is so relaxed that I can't explain it.
I started to trust Debian 0.1. I don't even check anything anymore. I'm starting to love Gnu/Linux again.
blender wine Nvidia\ AMD games all work great, no problems.
By the way I am using Debian KDE/MATE with 3D animation
I never keep anything on my system that I don't need.
My own programs, my own settings
I customized them all. There are only things I want.
Debian is great at this.
Lots of options, lots of talent
If you do not want to have problems, your only option is Debian distribution.
Nvidia wine dual graphics card, kernel and you will get rid of many other troubles.
I have been using Linux for 2 years
No matter what distribution I tried, I always had problems.
If I didn't swear by windows I would go back.
I haven't done any maintenance or repairs to the computer or dusted the fan for a long time.
Still, it works like poison. Quiet and extremely fast
Maximum RAM usage when the computer is idle is 500MB
there is no problem. None of the updates I received caused any problems on my computer. My mind is so relaxed that I can't explain it.
I started to trust Debian. I don't even check anything anymore. I'm starting to love Gnu/Linux again.
blender wine nvidia games all work great, no problems.
By the way I am using Debian Minimal LXDE
I never keep anything on my system that I don't need.
My own programs, my own settings
I customized them all. There are only things I want.
Debian is great at this.
Lots of options, lots of talent
Having used Ubuntu and then Arch based systems for several years straight, I never really gave Debian much of a thought, probably because the packages were too "old" and I didn't want to be behind security fixes. Arch got to a point where it was becoming more work to maintain, plus the AUR being too much of a risk to compensate for their lacking repo. Debian became a consideration, having been too fed up with Ubuntu/Canonical to go back, and because it's where the whole APT package management is from, so it has to be at least better than Ubuntu.
Plus, I can see a lot more interesting software other distros already had are now on it, like Strawberry (music player). I didn't have to use a PPA/DEB file or AUR anymore if Debian had it... Just as example (plus other software that's been recently added to Debian 12). So now I no longer have a reason to go back to Arch, especially when I realized Backports exists for specific stuff I might want without risking breakage with Testing or Unstable.
Seems I was wrong about my assumptions about Debian, it's actually more stable than I thought. XFCE and MATE work flawlessly with improved memory caching compared to before (having used them on Ubuntu and later Arch). My distrohopping days are pretty much over.
A candidate for being the best operating system on the planet maybe? Giving it a higher rating than 10 is not possible here, otherwise I would have done it. :P
And I would call Debian describe as a pure experience. Apt, dpkg, the so familiar things. And actually really complete software repository. (No dependency on Snaps. Yess.)
Actual focus on actually being as free and open source as possible (more than other distributions).
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Stability in the first place. You choose it for stability.
Of course I am talking about Debian Stable here.
> Debian Testing or Unstable can also be great experiences, nice to play around with in a VM or even desktop usage if you don't mind bugs at moments (and better you can report those bugs).
But the main idea of these is to help development in the first place.
And modern desktop hardware usage is where I already run Arch Linux primarilly. I prefer that quicker update cycle then and newest versions of everything, combined with having control on every aspect of my own system what I install and configure (DIY).
Otherwise, Debian Stable is also still a great choice for desktops. At least if you have a bit less specific requirements on modern hardware.
Lots of people don't like seeing system updates every day, so to have that limited to security patches mostly is a good thing for them.
Debian is really underrated, also for desktop usage.
I've read various posts over the internet saying that Debian is not that great as a gaming distribution, in all honesty? I have to disagree. When it comes to older hardware you're pretty much set, just follow the Steam Debian wiki page and you'll be off to the races. Sure you won't have the bleeding edge in packages compared to other distros but it makes up for it in stability.
But, if you have newer hardware (like myself) or you want the latest mesa drivers when it comes to Steam, the flatpak version of Steam is a great choice. Steam flatpak uses its own mesa driver which is updated quite frequently, giving you the bleeding edge when it comes to gaming performance whilst having the stability of Debian, it is a match made in heaven.
When it comes to the Steam flatpak installation it is quite simple, you'll first have to add the flatpak repo which is easy to follow on the flathub "Set up flathub" section and follow the Debian instructions. Find Steam on flathub afterwards and follow the instructions once more and you should be good to go. Lastly if you have issues with flatpak Steam regarding finding drives a simple command shown below or the use of Flatseal can help resolve those issues.
Overall I think Debian is actually one of the better distros when it comes to gaming. I use Debian for gaming, emulation and web browsing and it has been awesome, I've been to various other distros but I keep coming back to Debian, highly recommended.
Absolutely blazing fast!
I have used Manjaro, Ubuntu, Fedora, and MxLinux, Debian is absolutely a beast when it comes to Internet Speed...
Just Wow!
However, it's not as polished as others.
In fact it looks very plain and vanilla with Gnome Desktop. Kernel is not the latest, neither does the default office suite and Firefox.
If speed and transparency is your top priority and don't mind an plain looking desktop experience, this is the one.
If you want fancier and polished experience, try Fedora or Manjaro or MxLinux.
Ubuntu is buggy
Bookworm doesn't disappoint. Debian's reputation for stability? Holds true. Hardware? Supported. Software? A library. Installation? Smooth. Not flashy, but rock-solid. Servers hum. Workstations purr. Desktops? Good enough.
Plus side:
Stable as a mountain. Mission-critical? Debian's your mule.
Software galore. Need a tool? It's likely there.
Runs on anything. Old hardware? No problem.
Choice. GNOME, KDE, Xfce, take your pick.
Support. Five years of security patches. Sleep easy.
Downside:
Not bleeding edge. Latest and greatest? Look elsewhere.
Newbies beware. Can be overwhelming.
Installation? Takes time.
Overall?
Debian 12 is the workhorse. Steady. Dependable. Experienced users? Rejoice. Need flash? Keep looking. But for most, Debian just works.
Debian, despite its longstanding presence in the Linux community, has several significant drawbacks. Its outdated software repositories mean users often miss out on the latest features and security improvements, which can be frustrating for those needing up-to-date applications. The installation process is cumbersome and less intuitive compared to modern distributions, making it less suitable for beginners. Debian's focus on stability over innovation results in a slower update cycle, delaying important updates. Its default desktop environments can feel bland and outdated. Additionally, the absence of proprietary drivers by default complicates hardware compatibility, making setup more difficult for users with modern hardware. The lack of user-friendly tools and support compared to more popular distributions like Ubuntu further diminishes its appeal.
Debian killed my distro hopping. After years of multi-booting, it was the only distro that never failed me.
It lacks the bloat and questionable decisions of Ubuntu. It upgrades beautifully between major releases, unlike Fedora. Once it is set up and working, it stays that way.
Package selection is great. Cliched complaints about stale packages are mitigated by backports, flatpak, snap, appimage, and the nix and guix package managers. Or just compile the software yourself.
Debian is community based. There is no corporation pushing strange or self-serving decisions. It is probably the most important community based distro we have.
And the ISO *finally* includes the firmware you'll probably need for your hardware.
Debian is a superb distro, fast, light or heavy (depends on your choice), very configurable and with tons of packages and consistently stands out for its reliability and stability. While I occasionally feel the urge to distro-hop, I invariably find myself returning to Debian. Why? Because it simply works.
For those seeking a fast minimalistic distro devoid of unnecessary bloatware, Debian is the ideal choice. Admittedly, some of its software may appear outdated, but this very characteristic contributes to its rock-solid stability. Rather than labeling it as old or outdated, I prefer to describe it as very well tested. It was precisely the fact that it has slightly older packages that drew me to experimenting with various other distributions - Arch, Fedora, Tumbleweed, Manjaro, to name a few in pursuit of bleeding-edge software. Yet, in the end, I’ve come to the realization that the allure of novelty fades quickly when confronted with significant bugs and compatibility issues.
Even within the Debian ecosystem, occasional bugs do arise. However, these instances remain exceptions rather than the rule. Most issues are tied to specific application versions and the Debian community actively addresses them mostly. Personally, I’ve settled into a comfortable rhythm with Debian, while leveraging backports for the kernel and other essential software components that require a more recent version. So it is a win-win solution :)
Debian stands as a beacon of stability and reliability in the Linux ecosystem, offering users an operating system that excels in both performance and versatility. At its core, Debian embodies the principles of free and open-source software, fostering a vibrant community of developers and users who contribute to its ongoing evolution. As I delve into the intricacies of Debian, I find myself impressed by its myriad strengths and occasional drawbacks.
One of Debian's foremost virtues is its unparalleled stability. The meticulous testing procedures employed prior to each release ensure that users can rely on Debian for mission-critical tasks without fear of system instability or unexpected crashes. This stability is particularly crucial for server environments where uninterrupted uptime is imperative.
Moreover, Debian's reliability extends beyond its technical prowess to encompass its commitment to software freedom. By adhering strictly to the principles of free software, Debian remains a bastion of openness and transparency in an industry often dominated by proprietary solutions. This dedication to ethical computing resonates strongly with users who prioritize privacy, security, and user autonomy.
However, Debian's conservative release cycle, while conducive to stability, may occasionally leave users longing for the latest features and updates. Furthermore, the installation process, though comprehensive, may pose a challenge for newcomers to the Linux ecosystem. Despite these minor shortcomings, Debian's robust documentation and supportive community serve as invaluable resources for users navigating the installation and configuration process.
In conclusion, Debian earns my utmost commendation for its unwavering commitment to excellence and its steadfast adherence to the principles of free software. With its rock-solid stability, broad hardware support, and extensive software repositories, Debian stands as a testament to the power of collaborative development and the enduring appeal of open-source software. Therefore, I wholeheartedly award Debian a rating of 9 out of 10, recognizing it as a cornerstone of the Linux ecosystem and a testament to the enduring values of innovation, collaboration, and freedom.
Debian, oh my sweet Debbie,
I'm still coming back to You!
Debian is a miraculous cure for distro hoping, a rock solid and versatile OS with plenty of software options and packages. It works out of the box on different drivers tested so far (mostly Intel laptops). You install it, you forget it and you just focus on your work. Not the latest kernel or not the newest packages do not necessary mean “outdated” but rather thoroughly tested…it’s a huge advantage for the end-user. For Linux enthusiasts enjoying continuously evolving OS, there are still the unstable and testing branches.
I also appreciate Debian’s decentralized and community driven development with slow release cycles and the option to install non-free software if desired.
Really like/liked 12. But kept losing my Bluetooth headphone connection. Until one day I was unable to get it back. At first I thought the headset was going and had finally gone bad. However on a Windows 10 computer the headset was immediately recognized it and, depending on which Bluetooth device I switched to, it would switch it would do so automatically. After hours of sifting through the web for answers and to no avail trying any and all those i found, I removed it. Because of my circumstances not being able to use my Bluetooth headset is not an option for me. Having said that .when this gets fixed I will be the first in line to re-trash windows and reinstall Debian.
I have been using Debian for 10 years and I can say that (bookworm) is the best version to date and has never let me down, it's a rock solid stable system.
I would highly recommend this for everyone I have installed it on two PC's and two Laptop's with no trouble, one LT is over 12 years old and runs just fine.
The community is very kind and responsive.
Debian is a reason to stop distro-hopping and waste your time.
Debian is as friendly as it has ever been in my opinion.
Huge respect to the developers and creators of Debian who contribute their time and strength to make such a fine distro.
I went extensively (2year+) through Manjaro, Kubuntu, MX, Mint. Kernels 5.5-6.8
Debian 12 is so far ahead of everyone in terms of stability and consistency it's not even funny.
- Nothing stewpid going on in journalctl -p3, systemctl status (--user).
- HW video acceleration works nearly out-off-the-box (with few apt installs).
- I can run Intel/Nvidia gpus in hybrid/offload or in exclusive setup. Gsync/FreeSymc works.
- I can compile my kernels and deb package them. KMS drivers get recompiled without errors.
- apt is just as boring and uneventful as Debian itself. Updates are seamless. No regressions or kms errors. Never had to hunt any keys or fix anything.
- Nothing obscure happening behind my backs (snaps ubuntu, mhw manjaro) The system feels as Vanilla as Apfelstrudel made with the homemade pastry and vanilla proper.
- Geekbench6 1800/7200 on stock i7-8700k with no special optimizations.
CONS: still unable to completely turn off my 2070 Super (uses 6-8 Watts while on Intel integrated). Unlike in Manjaro, only coarse-grained nvidia pm supported. "NVreg_DynamicPowerManagement=0x02" gives
> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/gpus/0000:01:00.0/power
Runtime D3 status: Not supported
The most stable distro you will find. And with the bookworm release, Debian isn't that outdated now, it just works. Sometimes, you can break apt, but that's rare. It has good support, variety of desktop environments to choose from, and it's just getting better day by day. It is one of the best linux distro out there. If you haven't tried Debian, go for it, you will not regret it. It has a lot of packages in it's main repositories. I always come back to it after distro hopping. It will be a great choice if you are switching from ubuntu or any other beginner distro for the first time, because it is not as easy to operate as those, but not hard. It will increase you knowledge about linux a lot.
I am using Debian for 10 years now. I find it the best Linux based operating system for my needs.
Ever since Debian 12, it is even better, and I believe that Debian is on the right track with the decision they made with the distro.
I use the KDE Plasma desktop environment, as I find it having the best applications available, the best workflow, system resources use, the ergonomics and aesthetics.
Debian, as an operating system, offers a stable experience, with all the necessary tools for daily use.
I use it also on my servers, all my laptops and NUCs, and it runs flawlessly for many years.
I recommend Debian for anyone who wants to use and learn Linux.
Debian Cinnamon edition live .iso is ok, it has nice selection of apps and things for internationalization like different input methods are installed out of box, bluetooth support is configured too.
So basically Cinnamon edition has everything a user is expecting...
Also Debian GNOME edition live .iso is ok. Input methods are present, nice default selection of apps, and working bluetooth...
BUT XFCE and MATE edition live .isos suck, cause user need to configure/install bluetooth him/herself, so these 2 editions are not recomender for general use, you need to waste time for configuring basic things with them.
Debian 12 is kind of like an invisible operating system. It's there, it does look and feel great, it works great and it does what is asked. Debian 12 can be installed from bootable USB Live iso (available for each desktop environment) that includes the non-free AMD drivers! This makes the installation a easy!
There are tons of packages in the Debian repository available and using instructions from QGIS, the latest version was able to be installed, which was my catalyst for switching distros. My computer use is not intensive, but Firefox with 20 tabs open, youtube running and another cad or office program running is handled with ease.
(I'd installed and upgraded Wheezy, Jesse, Stretch and Sid before trying another distro. When I tried to go back, I couldn't get the live CD or net install to work BUT the failure was likely not reading instructions before plunging in. This time I did read the Debian preparation and installation instructions as well as some of the post install instructions. The manual is extremely well written and a refreshing change.
I can't think of anything to downgrade my rating even by 1 point. And, believe me I can be a harsh critic.
Top distro ever.
Stable, reliable, rock solid; and version 12 is best version ever: firmware included, drivers complete, fast boot and lightning fast with LXQT or XFCe.
Debian is nowadays mature to ber for real an universal operating system, can really be now everything you want, rock solid server, reliable desktop, embedded OS system.
Cons: if you want specific software (like MySQL Workbench, for example), you have to add sid entry to /etc/apt/sources.list, install the software with dependencies, then comment out the entry to go back to stable tree dependencies, but that's it
Debian12 has some problems. When installing the system iso, gnome will install a Thai terminal. This bug seems to have been around for a long time.
Debian is old but stable, I sometimes feel LibreOffice 7.4 is too old.
Gnome and KDE each have their own strengths and weaknesses. The former is smooth but too crude, and the latter is perfect but lacks stability. KDE 5.27 has a memory leak on my laptop with several processes named akonadi.
Linux DEs are over twenty years old and still terrible to use. Redundant functions, cumbersome settings, poor hardware compatibility, and weird operating logic. Maybe I shouldn't complain, the developers never ask me for payment.
Debian is considered to be the most typical free software. Everyone says so. In fact, it does not have much say in the Linux world. This is the biggest problem. The open source world is dominated by large companies. When Red Hat and others switched to systemd ten years ago, Debian could only follow — I am not blaming systemd, I mean that because systemd is supported by large companies, it will definitely surpass other init and eventually become mainstream.
Unfortunately, Linux is becoming more and more homogeneous, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, they look so similar for regular users. People recommended me to use devuan, and even freebsd, well, they are not dead yet, but they have been marginalized.
Very poor English. I resorted to Google Translate. Hope it doesn't cause reading difficulties.
Awesome stability and performance. A very good alternative to something like ubuntu if you dislike canonical. Most servers and such run on Debian. it is also extremely simple to set up different applications thanks to the apt tool. Also systemd does work as a good init tool and a daemon manager. most programs run without any problems, and a good part of the world's OS'es and servers rely on debian. Compiling and installing custom kernels is very easy. all hail our lord and savior dpkg. also apt that tool is awesome
I never thought I'd write this: everything works with Debian 12. Until now, I had tried to install Debian but I always had problems with the hardware. Now, with non-free+kde repositories, everything works. My pc flies with Debian 12 kde.
Until now I used Ubuntu, because everything works on Ubuntu. But I don't like snaps or being forced to install snap. My time with Ubuntu is over, but I needed Debian to be "up to par" of a modern PC.
Now my hp desket 2722e printer works (and so does the scanner). Now I can play Total War games on Steam without any problems, much faster than on Windows. Now my videos in different formats are recognized by Dragon Player without any problems, I don't have to install VLC.
I feel that Debian is "Linux", and i didn´t feel the same with Ubuntu.
Good job and good decision: it was necessary to activate the non-free firmware by default, and it was necessary to introduce Calamares installer on live image, It is easier for non expert users (like me) than the default installer.
The world runs on Debian. I think this because it is very stable and secure.
I mostly distro hopped between many distros, like Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora and openSUSE. Out of all these distros, Debian I like the most, so I stayed with it for the last ten five years.
Debian is stable, and it just works and gets out of your way. If you need a distribution you don't have to fiddle with too much, Debian will be a great companion.
Pros:
- Debian is stable (if you use the stable channel)
- offers all the packages you would need to work with no problems
- makes easy to hop to other distros based on it (like Ubuntu, Linux Mint)
- you will always get back to Debian, for sure!
Cons:
NONE
Just give Debian a try! You will enjoy it for sure.
Debian is stable for you. never releases packages without thoroughly testing them
No one tests as much as Debian
I will not say that there are many ISO options in Debian or that it supports all desktops and file managers.
you all already know these and more
I will only talk about the speed of the debia.
Debian is the fastest distribution I have ever used.
Debian has no rival in terms of speed.
here you go
Let me share with you the results of the tests I made with blender 3d.
same scene
windows 10 = 2 minutes 7 seconds
linux mint cinnamon = 1 minute 53 seconds
mx linux = 1 minute 48 seconds
debian lxde = 1 minute 45 seconds
I had to turn on the laptop cooler in all the distributions I tried, especially in Windows 10.
because it was putting a lot of pressure on the graphics card and the processor. This caused a terrible heat to emerge.
Debian LXDE does not even need this. Because even though it was the same scene while rendering in blender, it did not put any load on my computer. I noticed that neither my processor nor my graphics card was stressed at all. Even the fan was working on low.
That's why I didn't turn on the laptop cooler.
I was actually surprised when I first noticed it. Then, my surprise did not last long as I knew that Debian had indeed done more tests than other distributions and therefore was more stable than all other distributions.
Yes, that's what I call an operating system.
Debian LXDE is an operating system that is light, fast and does not burden the computer.
This ensures that your computer does not strain, overheat and wear out in a short time while you are doing your work.
I think you should try debian lxde If you want, go one step further and try Debian Minimal LXDE.
When you realize that you are doing your work too quickly
I think the way to look at Debian is to consider the top 10 Linux distributions from about any list and notice at least half of them are Debian, Debian-based (such as Ubuntu) or based upon Debian-based distributions (such as Mint based upon Ubuntu/Debian). This isn't to take anything away from the others on that top 10 list (commonly Arch, Fedora, and openSUSE), but it does show how pervasive Debian has become. Why? Debian is rock-solid stable. And more-so than any other distribution I've tried. Debian also has a huge collection of free software from a similarly huge customer base. The Alien program also makes it easy to convert Fedora RPM packages to Debian DEB packages for installation.
I'm using many different operating systems today as different needs may require a different focus, but all my servers are Debian. Debian has all the programs I need (#1 consideration) and they just work 24x7 until I decide to turn them off. That's what servers are supposed to do, right?
I have been using Debian, or Debian-based systems, for 15 years, and I can honestly say that it has never, ever let me down. These days I keep it simple with Debian Stable and Xfce, but for users who are just learning about Linux, Debian-based systems such as MX-Linux or Linux Mint or Ubuntu are there with helpful toolkits to make the transition from Windows easier.
I like that the Debian team focus on stability and safety. It means that I feel safe adding applications from the repository, and happy that my elderly computer still works as well as it did ten years ago. My life would not collapse if my computer was unreliable, but I prefer that it works every time, and Debian gives me that confidence.
There is a choice of installation methods, from the lightweight netinst iso (for online installation), through the offline DVD iso to live versions with Gnome, KDE, Xfce, Cinnamon, LXDE, LxQt or Mate desktop. I disagree with statements that the installer is intimidating - in fact it is simple, consistent and robust, and far easier to use than some other Linux distributions.
GRUB bootloader no longer runs os-prober by default
New malloc implementation
A syslog daemon is no longer installed by default
Big font updates, including Google Fonts
Debian is a free operating system, developed by thousands of volunteers from all over the world who collaborate via the Internet. The Debian project's key strengths are its volunteer base, its dedication to the Debian Social Contract and Free Software, and its commitment to provide the best operating system possible. This new release is another important step in that direction.
Debian, renowned for its stability, security, and extensive software repositories, is a cornerstone in the Linux community (can present a steeper learning curve compared to more beginner-friendly distributions), underpinning many other distributions like Ubuntu. However, its commitment to stability often means the software in its stable release can be older, prioritizing thorough testing over cutting-edge features. This approach, while ensuring system reliability, may not satisfy users or developers in need of the latest software advancements for their projects.
It's a great distro, but i have problrms with Debian when I try to managing my AMD GPU chip. I've made my little home studio withh my old laptop and it runs reaaly great.
The worst thing that I can said is the installation. It takes a lot of time comparing with Artix, for example.
The RT kernel instalation is too easy and obviusly Debian repositories have all applications that you need.
Maybe, it could be great that the installer user could be in "sudoers" group automatically.
For low resources computers it works really fine with XFCE or LXDE.
The best distro to daily once you are ready to "settle down" after hopping and are comfortable-ish with the terminal.
The purists who want the cleanest environment possible to build from without going overboard will find this is a great start without having to learn too much especially if you come from Ubuntu or mint. Fair warning though - its GUI app store app isn't that great and needs a lot of time just to load categories, let alone do proper searches. Terminal is your friend here in a very big way and that's not a bad thing.
It takes some doing, but doing that do does make the do worth it. And the do is really just getting comfortable with the terminal and apt. The benefit is that you get to know your system better and once its all rigged up you can know that you aren't dealing with extra bloat unless you want to and that the core of it all - the kernel - is stable. Getting into the flow doesn't take long.
Added bonus is the ease of which you can install basically every desktop on install. Nice!
I've been using Linux-based systems for 27 years, at workstations and servers, and I've witnessed the evolution of Unix-like operating systems.
For about 8 years I used mainly Debian-based distributions, with or without systemd, due to the generous volume of Deb installation packages ,practical , boring stability, detection and correct storage of hardware settings , speed in execution – including on computers weaker, or / and older.
Servers are no exception, compatibility with Debian stable is amazing, and upgrading to the new version is done on the fly without any problems for service management.
My workstations usually use an custom light XFCE4 and I have not encountered any major software or compatibility issues. Successfully solve the task as a mediabox system, there are no problems with HDMI sound or disconnections for NetworkManager, which can not be said about devices with systemd-less modification, for example MX, Antix or Devuan-a thing to note here for non systemd believers.
The optional installation of the current cores, backports, works smoothly, as does the current use with it.
If the operating system appears memory-consuming or seems to use a longer boot time, it can be easily adjusted by administering services at startup specific systemd.
Calamares-based installation routine is exceptional, you can easily change the types and size of partitions, and installation on UEFI partitions is perfect – here still a white ball against some non systemd distributions based on Debian and well rated, which installation grub UEFI fails miserably or simply is not done – negative example is Devuan with reflecta installer.
The result is a deserved 10 note and a personal opinion not to remove systemd from Debian, to avoid unpleasant surprises.
I'm more than impressed with Debian 12. In fact, it's the best experience with Linux I've had so far.
For a couple of years, I settled on Xubuntu but the reliability hasn't always been there and especially since the introduction of Firefox as a Snap, I started looking around for a new operating system. I've tried a few on a secondary machine, but there has always been some unnerving bugs or they were just to much work to maintain. In the end, I want to work with my system and not on my system. The search finally ended, when Debian 12 was released. I only installed the base and added everything I needed from there (all the software I need is in the repositories which is a huge plus) and the system just flies, is super solid and very lightweight (~350 MB after cold boot).
Honestly, I didn't have an single issue so far. I've never been that amazed to boot my laptop in the morning and get to work. This OS is an absolute dream to work with. I've migrated all my machines to Debian and am definitely planning to stay a little longer.
I'd like to thank all the developers and everyone involved with the Debian project. Keep up the great work.
I don't know why Bookworm is considered stable. There are so many things that are broken, so many performance issues. I use Bullseye on a slow machine and get better performance than when using Bookworm on a faster machine. There are memory leaks in aspects of KDE, particularly in regards to notifications and appointments components. I end up with my machine using 500MB of RAM on literally nothing. I have zero appointments set up. I don't use those aspects of KDE. But, there they are, sucking the life out of my machine. The SDDM login doesn't function properly on certain hardware and the cursor glitches, blinks, and there is a square of color that looks like a rendering issue if you move the mouse when logging in. Something broke how text displays in the various GUI components of certain apps, so it looks like someone put my display in a paper shredder. I haven't seen most of these issues in Bullseye. The standards for stability must be pretty low. I'd expect things to be breaking like this in a testing branch, not in a stable one. The Bullseye release has fewer features in certain respects, particularly in regards to KDE theming. But, it's so much more stable. I'm going to take the term "stable" with a grain of salt when it comes from Debian for now on. I can't have every other thing breaking on my machine. That doesn't feel stable and it doesn't feel like an upgrade/update. I'd rather stick with something that actually works.
I've been running SID for over 6 months, coming from stable previously. This is basically a slightly slower rolling Debian release distro! Everything is smooth and runs just fine. Update the system once a week, have Timeshift setup but so far i didn't need it at all. I'm using the KDE Desktop Environment with Pipewire for the sound back-end, and mostly do programming in Visual Studio Code and play games on Steam. My hardware is not the latest either, i'm running a modest i7 2600K, 32GB RAM with a newer AMD RX6750 XT, everything just works! Debian hasn't let me down so far :)
i admit that I sometimes F--itup, but thats my doing and nothing to do with the developers.
highly recommend this for everyone, install it on grannies machine and tell her its the new windows update... and it will just keep on working.
I have been using it for ages, every now and again I install some other linux variant just for the lols, but always maintain Debian as my main installation, you know, because, well, why not, afterall and I will say it again, it just works.
After trying Debian 12 version "Unstable" for a week I decided to stop because I was starting to have serious bugs with tabs on Steam and on certain websites despite very regular updates.
I decided to try the "Testing" version this time.
I don't like "Firefox ESR" so I installed the "normal Firefox" by following the instructions very well explained on the "Mozilla" site and I have no problems.
For my PC which is quite old now I find that the drivers of my peripherals are much better recognized under "Debian" than under Win$$ or distributions based on "Arch"... for the moment I have not noticed any problems ...the system consumes only 1.4 GB of RAM without activities and up to 2.8 GB of RAM in full activity.
Without doing anything Win$$ is already at 2.5 GB of RAM for me....to be continued
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