I'm a long-ish time debian and ubuntu user.
I wanted to move off Ubuntu and use Debian, but needed more frequent updates than Debian's usual release cycle.
After a few months of use, nothing has broken, packages have been updated quickly ....
My only annoyance is that when I get my full-disk-encryption / LUKS password wrong on bootup, I have to reboot it as I don't know the magic grub incantation to retry.
Also on my XPS 13, the console font size is way too small as my 13" screen is too high resolution. Oh well.
I tried everything lately (Fedora, Debian, Neon, Kubuntu, oSuse) but Siduction was the only distro that gave me "No bootable medium found" after installation. That was with EFI boot - installing with BIOS boot it worked fine. I ended up installing Debian and next installing Siduction into the Debian partition. That worked for EFI.
I made a full disk backup wit Clonezilla and later restored it ... to end up with a system that would not boot. That has never happened with any of the other distros I tried. So I chrooted into the partition and reinstalled grub. Now I am back in business.
The screen flickered frequently (KDE/Plasma). I tried kernel parameters in /etc/default/grub that had no effect. In fact, that config file is never used because siduction's config in /etc/default/grub.d/ overrides it. But siduction also uses a bleeding edge kernel that is even newer than the one in Debian unstable. I removed it and now use the Debian unstable kernel without flickering.
Almost all of the packages come straight from Debian unstable, i.e. Debian's repo is used directly. Siduction adds some artwork, scripts and configs but very little else.Out of almost 1500 packages on my system only 1 comes from Siduction to replace a package from Debian. And, strangely, apt-listbugs is not installed (you really need that on Debian unstable). And I am sorry to say I do not like the artwork.
Obviously Sidiction is not for the faint-hearted, but I did end up with a rolling-release system that is probably more stable than Arch or Tumbleweed. For the time being.
I use Debian unstable on another computer and I know that sooner or later that system will fail. I happened before. It will happen again. But I hope that somehow Siduction will keep running on that unfortunate day. When that happens I will be back here with praises and a much higher rating.
I ran siduction in live mode and it seemed like the perfect distro. It instantly recognized my printers, wi-fi, etc. It ran smoothly without any issues. I was impressed. I thought it was just what I was looking for, a rolling version of Debian. I decided to install it, and the process went well. However, during my first run, I discovered that there was no sound. I spent the next two days adjusting the settings, working the command line, and looking for help on the internet. All to no avail. Nothing worked. So I installed Spiral Linux instead. Problem solved. siduction aborted.
After 15 years of running Ubuntu on every machine, I distro-hopped for a year, and finally settled on Siduction.
Why? Because Siduction gives me the most polished Debian-based distro I have ever experienced.
I am running the KDE Plasma desktop version and I feel that it is as polished as the Manjaro KDE Plasma version.
The Calamares installer supports encryption, Btrfs + rollback, and hibernation to a swap partition.
In the 6 months that I have been using Siduction, I have installed it on my Intel laptop and my AMD desktop.
Stability has been perfect!
Yes, I have experienced a small issue due to Debian unstable "Sid" which didn't break my system. I handled it on one computer by rolling back to the previous day, and continuing from there. I handled it on the other computer by waiting a few days before updating the system.
My history with Linux dates back to '96 and Slackware, back when we had to create our own floppies with the RAWRITE command. Throughout the years, I've done my fair share of distro hopping, including Red Hat 6 (not the commercial release everyone knows today), S.u.S.E (before it became OpenSUSE), Stampede Linux, Gentoo, Arch, yada yada yada...
But most of all, I've been a die-hard Debian and Debian-based user for a majority of that time. There are only two distros in the Debian class that I've used in either a commercial setting or at home for years at a time: Debian Stable and Mint Xfce.
Mint was the last distribution that I had on both my laptop and desktop for the past 5 or six years without a problem. Unfortunately, my laptop recently crashed (from all the abuse it took over those years). Which left me with my desktop. I had upgraded from Mint 18 to 19 to 20 without any problems. I had ZFS in a RAIDZ configuration on four 4TB drives and a 500GB nvme drive as my main boot device. It wasn't until my attempt to update to Mint 21.1, and all hell broke loose.
Since then, I've been fighting with several distros, trying to get my system back to the way I like it. I've tried MX Linux, Debian STABLE and TESTING, Ubuntu, Xubuntu (since I prefer Xfce), and even went back to FreeBSD for a go. However, none really came close to fitting the bill, except surprisingly enough, Ubuntu did. But there are still a few quirks about Ubuntu that I can do without... Snaps, I'm talking to you!!!.
So, the other day, I stumbled upon "siduction", and all I can say is WOW!!! I installed the Xfce version on both my laptop and desktop, and was up and running on both within a matter of minutes. With all the tweaks I had to do on both systems, I would say it too me about 5 hours each, to get them configured to where I was comfortable them.
"siduction" is a fantastic distro. The community has done an outstanding job with it. They've managed to do all the "heavy-lifting" for you. Unfortunately, there is one snag I've run into, which is why I can only give it a 9/10 rating, and that has to do with not being able to get ZFS working on it, yet. Tomorrow is another day, and I'll continue to keep diving into trying to solve this problem. If anything, I'm going to keep "siduction" on my laptop, and if worse-comes-to-worse, then I'll put Ubuntu back on my desktop, because I'm not about to let 16TB of disk space go to waste.
I've been using Ubuntu, Mint, for almost 20 years now. I rarely ever install Debian because of the massive effort required to tune the system for my needs. I finally decided to test Siduction after years of avoiding it because of it's "unstable" nature. well after 8 weeks of testing I can say that the distro installs nicely, it comes configured with the right set and amount of apps, the filesystem is properly configured, everything works on my computers running it, the packages are amazingly fresh, and it is stable. Also the MOW desktop look is rather nice. This is my go-to distro from now on, I am done with distrohopping.
Version: 22.1 Rating: 9 Date: 2023-02-23 Votes: 5
Obviously very updated distribution, perhaps more than Arch and for the moment I would say stable.
The LXQT version is fast and responsive and with neat and pleasant graphics.
The only annoying thing is that to update safely you have to exit in "int 3" but since this protects the system that's fine.
I haven't encountered any driver problems and I've only once had to wait a day to be able to install software that had an unresolved dependency.
The documentation is very well done.
I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the distribution.
Version: 22.1 Rating: 4 Date: 2023-02-22 Votes: 1
Was using 21.3.0 Wintersky in a virtual machine and was about to install on the hardware as my daily use machine. It takes me awhile to move to another install as there are gigabytes of mail and other items, along with reshuffling partitions.
The VM quit working after one of the updates, well exactly the keyboard worked EXEPT for the enter key, couldn't even signon to the GUI. Could get into it in text mode but never got it functional with the GUI. May have been a missmatch with VIrtualBox extras.
I finally decided to install the new release 22.1 Masters of war. Wrong move. The Task bar has become a nightmare. It doesn't perform anything like the prior release. They have decided to use a floating bar with the running tasks, sorry that's not my idea of useful I don't want to chase the floating taskbar when I want to switch to another running task. There doesn't appear any way to move the running tasks back to what was the normal task bar in 21.3.0. All the icons about the system are located on the left, with no apparent way to move them back to the right.
I know the developers have just got to play with the new shinny objects BUT please give us a SINGLE place to set things on the desktop back to what they were.
General comment Siduction appears to purge all the graphics from prior releases immediately on moving to the next release, would be nice to have the desktop images for prior releases, I happened to like the Wintersky background.
Back to testing Mint Cinnamon and openSuSE Leap. Still trying Manjaro BUT as many of the current distros it has problems connecting AND staying connected to my Epson XP-7100 or Cannon MG7720.
Version: 22.1 Rating: 9 Date: 2023-01-07 Votes: 4
Congratulations for all the siduction team.
Siduction is one of the coolest, powerfull and polished distribution. I like them from long time ago, when the name was sidux... All these days the devs are working hard to make a quite stable distrinution out of Debian Sid that is the unstable rolling development version of the Debian distribution containing the latest packages that have been introduced into Debian, NOT STABLE in its nature...
Highly recommend it for power users (that can use many special tools that are included) that asking Debian code base but in rolling release!
Cheers respectful team.
Version: 22.1 Rating: 8 Date: 2022-12-30 Votes: 2
It would be close to perfect if you added a Distro for Gnome.
Didn't know they made a Debian distro without Gnome.
I like that it came with the latest 6.1.1 kernel, and a full repository of apps, without SNAP!
I installed Siduction as XFCE, then installed apt install gnome-session.
That allowed me to get my foot in the door with Gnome.
I later installed apt install gnome.
That gives most of the gnome packages.
Also added apt install gnome-session-extension-manager
That allows gnome extension modifications.
With Gnome, and XFCE both on the Drive, it ends up bigger, and more bloated than I like.
The fix would be for the Siduction group to add a Gnome Distro version? PLEASE!
Congratulations to Siduction Linux for being the first regular distribution to apply a kernel that actually detects the internal keyboard on the recent Asus Vivobooks and Zenbooks laptops. Kernel 6.1.1-4-siduction-amd64.
That in itself makes it valuable to me.
Although it did not have my native language in the installer this was easily fixed once I got to the desktop (Plasma)
I also had to download language and help packs for LibreOffice in my language.
The distro comes with the usual set of packages for internet, office and multimedia, but also some extra bits here and there like Midnight Commander (mc) and remote destop tools.
You can use both Discover and Synaptic to install and remove software by GUI.
Thank you siductuon team for bringing this out!
It's a keeper!
This is surprisingly good. The system installed easily and just worked. It is very fast, auto login works, which isn't always the case with Debian weekly builds.
I used the xfce desktop, upgraded to the 5.19 series kernel version. Updates and installation of packages was straightforward and positive from both the command line and with Synaptic.
I like the ability to create launchers on the Desktop, not possible with some distros.
So far nothing to complain about.
If you remove the ID from Siduction you get suction but the developers sure ain't suckers!
Great experience so far. Very stable and great forum for support. And I love KDE since I used it first on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Compared to Tumbleweed (rolling release as well) the updates are lower in download size but not so much in update time. However no issue at all. Very pleased with Siduction.
It is probably true that the developer base is not so huge. One more reason to support this distro. Really great work done. Let's hope it will be around for a long time.
Wish the team all the best for the future!!!
There are some rough edges on this distribution. Somehow that is something one would expect from a distribution based on Debian's so called "unstable" branch. Still, Siduction is running perfectly fine for years now on all my machines being laptops or classic desktop PCs.
What needs to be improved are the preinstalled applications and tools. There is way too much clutter and duplicates of tools for the same purpose. Nothing severe of course and an "apt purge" away from the user having a lean and clean system. But still, that's what I would expect from a distribution: a sane and well chosen application set.
Still, all in all Siduction has a lot of points on the plus side:
- solid base
- devs respond quickly
- friendly, helpful community both on forums and IRC
- interesting choice for rolling release users
Absolute best debian install I have ever used. If you need networking and administration in a working environment, this is it.
I have no cons for this distribution as yet. Been using it in a work and personal environment for several months. I use it with things taken from MX. Mostly applications such as Featherpad, Notepadqq, Remmina etc. I use it with KDE which has improved greatly over the years mainly for dolphin and effective mixed networking environment. For me it is the magic combination of things that work. Years ago I used this combination effectively but KDE became unusable so I switched to Meppis then debian as Mepis faltered then MX and now full circle back to debian unstable rolling via siduction. I really don't want to fix my distro all the time and siduction just works. Hope it stays that way.
Still a great distro. I miss the gnome version but I love KDE too and have gotten used to it. Runs great on my 4 year old Lenovo Ideapad and even older HP Envy.
I ve installed the "xorg" (minimal xorg: fluxbox) all went "ok" till the time I booted the system :
windows left a trail like the "end of the solitaire effect" on windoze -you may remember that game,
no problem I ve installed picom and everything - I thought was fine: till I ve realised A LOT of things were missing.. eg codecs (no friggin sound) not even "sound volume" icon.
No surprises the distro is going to die soon as ONLY 3 or 4 from the team left - now I have an idea of the half-baked releases... .. so better look elsewhere if you want a WORKING distro
Very pleasantly surprised with Siduction!
I have been looking for a Debian unstable distro, that uses all the latest kernels, apps, and software.
Siduction quickly updated to 5.15 kernel.
Since I like Gnome desktop the best?
I would like to see Gnome come as an iso option.
But, to my pleasant surprise, Gnome 40, and Cinnamon were both on the repository.
Gnome and Cinnamon were easily installed with the apt install command.
I also like the grub bootloader, used on Siduction.
Since I do multi-boot with Ubuntu and Manjaro, I usually use the Ubuntu bootloader.
I gave it a 9 rating, and the lack of a Gnome desktop .iso option, kept it from a 10.
Keep up the good work Siduction, and I will test all future versions.
Thanks,
Terry K.
Hot Springs, Arkansas
i like this distro very much. As far as I can tell, it's the best presentation of Debian Unstable I can find. Thanks to those who are maintaining Siduction. You're doing a great job.
I'm using the KDE version, which is apparently the flagship for this interesting distro. Nearly everything comes from Debian unstable (sid) which should make siduction unstable too, but it does not. I've had less breakage with this than with released versions of Ubuntu and openSUSE tumbleweed though these are far more tested and curated. The "Handbuch" is very good documentation, clear and understandable to me even though I had my last formal instruction in German well over a half century ago and have rarely used it since. They say they're working on an English translation....
They recommend updating in runlevel 3, which I'm used to doing in Tumbleweed. This can be kind of a pain but it seems to be worth it to avoid problems. I wrote a little shell script that uses tmux to show htop, sensors and nmon as well as the apt output which makes it interesting.
I wouldn't be using this if I were designing life-support equipment or bridges, but for my simple use case it is safe enough and it is fun to be on the bleeding edge.
I put my money where my mouth was and sent them a small donation today. This is a tiny project and deserves to grow.
I came to using this on the daily after remembering that it was a thing a year or so back. A that time a new ISO hand't released since roughly 2018 and I was not comfortable installing from media that old (prior experiences with Arch and Manjaro led to this decision), so I dabbled with the likes of Mageia (another highly recommended distro btw) and even OpenBSD. When I heard news of this new release, I had to try it, so I installed (install was quick, in under 15 minutes) and haven't looked back since. After installation, the only thing left to do was to install my preferred suite of software (coming from Arch, I was surprised that most of my AUR programs were either available as binaries in the main repos, or from source.) and disabling the unattended-upgrades so I could more freely use the package manager. I don't need to talk about how good apt-get is, as I'm sure many of you already know. Printer support is just fine, and WINE works fine enough if you were to need a windows program for whatever reason.
This distro is great for those users which are seasoned as well as those who are just starting out their Linux journey.
Using a new Zenbook UX325EA most of the Linux distributions I tested (Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, MX Linux) failed to allow either brightness control of the OLED display or audio output via the build in speakers.
Finally with the latest version of Siduction (shipped with kernel 5.13.6. on the Live ISO) these problems ended as well as my tests of other Linux derivatives.
Currently I am using v21.2.0 with the Cinnamon desktop the same way I used Linux Mint previously with Cinnamon. From a user's perspective there is almost no visible change but regarding administration it should be noted, that Siduction is based on... guess what? Debian Sid!
Before upgrading the software of that rolling release it is highly recommended to read the recent upgrade information on the project's home page. You will get help using the IRC chat of the project in German and English.
The Plasma Future edition already contains Debian GNU / Linux 11. Among other things, this has the advantage that scanner and printer are recognized immediately. Worked perfectly on my PC. Further it has the newest Plasma edition (5.22.4) on board. The manual is written very understandable and gives a good insight in Siduction or better said in the handling of Debian itself. The installation was smooth and perfect. A very successful birthday present on top of the times! Everything is fine, round and fast: In my opinion deserved 10 points.
After exchanging my Ubuntu system for a highly-touted Linux "newcomer," and finding it unpleasant for me, I decided to try the very latest version of Siduction. I had been trying it before it discontinued updates.
I am pleased to say Siduction installed smoothly, and is now running smoothly on my day-to-day machine. It seems almost pure Debian, which I love, with a very recent kernel. I'm using the Cinnamon desktop.
I want to find another way, as well, to thank the people at Siduction for their excellent distribution. Please keep up the good work. I'm hoping, after a week, to be able to shift all my machines to Siduction.
I'm touched also by the "en memorium" on the original wallpaper. It's a kind thing to do.
This is mixed-bag distro: some isos are working well, they do boot and installation goes ok. but isos like the xorg (openbox only) that is a nice minimal iso, stucks for hours on installation == half-backed iso I assume.
Now, THIS is what I'm talking about! A Linux distro that's easy to install, and is smooth running. I like what they've done with the LXLE desktop. It's completely functional but blazing fast, light, and not clunky. I can use siduction without thinking about it. It just works. Plus, it's a rolling distro! I should give it a 10. I just hope that over the long run, Debian unstable isn't as buggy as Arch and Gentoo.
Xfce flavour tested here. I can't see almost no differences between Siduction and its father Debian Sid. There is almost nothing new in this distro that you don't find in Debian, there is no original software, there is no utilities helping users to do things. Nothing. I don't get the point: Is it just the desktop image with the word "Siduction" the reason this is called "a distro"? By the way: It was impossible to install a working WINE, and you have to look in the internet how to activate sudo because it doesn't work neither. Compare this distro to Sparky (rolling branch): Both share same roots, but they are night and day.
Always fresh and stable distro with a great community behind it!
Be sure to drop into IRC and browse the forum, the "Upgrade Warnings" section can be very helpful. Siduction allows easy access to fresh RC kernels and Mesa git builds for the gaming enthusiasts. Also has nearly every DE ever made available in repos.
When others reinstall their broken distros, Debian keeps on truckin'. Give it a spin!
A very stable flavor of the unstable debian.
The installer has an option to make a tailor made installation without the need to wipe the whole disk.
I use the xfce desktop environment. Its polished, fast and stable!!!!
8/10 from me, I tried the LXQT flavour, I would keep it as a daily driver but
alas some issues:
visual artifacts on top bar of the chrome browser , also keep a note that the installer will wipe your /home/.local folder - just in case you already have a separate HOME partition and want to use without formatting. Otherwise is a nice and fast Debian Unstable distro, forum very friendly, highly recommended - that is if your hardware is supported.
I'm a long-ish time debian and ubuntu user.
I wanted to move off Ubuntu and use Debian, but needed more frequent updates than Debian's usual release cycle.
After a few months of use, nothing has broken, packages have been updated quickly ....
My only annoyance is that when I get my full-disk-encryption / LUKS password wrong on bootup, I have to reboot it as I don't know the magic grub incantation to retry.
Also on my XPS 13, the console font size is way too small as my 13" screen is too high resolution. Oh well.
I tried everything lately (Fedora, Debian, Neon, Kubuntu, oSuse) but Siduction was the only distro that gave me "No bootable medium found" after installation. That was with EFI boot - installing with BIOS boot it worked fine. I ended up installing Debian and next installing Siduction into the Debian partition. That worked for EFI.
I made a full disk backup wit Clonezilla and later restored it ... to end up with a system that would not boot. That has never happened with any of the other distros I tried. So I chrooted into the partition and reinstalled grub. Now I am back in business.
The screen flickered frequently (KDE/Plasma). I tried kernel parameters in /etc/default/grub that had no effect. In fact, that config file is never used because siduction's config in /etc/default/grub.d/ overrides it. But siduction also uses a bleeding edge kernel that is even newer than the one in Debian unstable. I removed it and now use the Debian unstable kernel without flickering.
Almost all of the packages come straight from Debian unstable, i.e. Debian's repo is used directly. Siduction adds some artwork, scripts and configs but very little else.Out of almost 1500 packages on my system only 1 comes from Siduction to replace a package from Debian. And, strangely, apt-listbugs is not installed (you really need that on Debian unstable). And I am sorry to say I do not like the artwork.
Obviously Sidiction is not for the faint-hearted, but I did end up with a rolling-release system that is probably more stable than Arch or Tumbleweed. For the time being.
I use Debian unstable on another computer and I know that sooner or later that system will fail. I happened before. It will happen again. But I hope that somehow Siduction will keep running on that unfortunate day. When that happens I will be back here with praises and a much higher rating.
I ran siduction in live mode and it seemed like the perfect distro. It instantly recognized my printers, wi-fi, etc. It ran smoothly without any issues. I was impressed. I thought it was just what I was looking for, a rolling version of Debian. I decided to install it, and the process went well. However, during my first run, I discovered that there was no sound. I spent the next two days adjusting the settings, working the command line, and looking for help on the internet. All to no avail. Nothing worked. So I installed Spiral Linux instead. Problem solved. siduction aborted.
After 15 years of running Ubuntu on every machine, I distro-hopped for a year, and finally settled on Siduction.
Why? Because Siduction gives me the most polished Debian-based distro I have ever experienced.
I am running the KDE Plasma desktop version and I feel that it is as polished as the Manjaro KDE Plasma version.
The Calamares installer supports encryption, Btrfs + rollback, and hibernation to a swap partition.
In the 6 months that I have been using Siduction, I have installed it on my Intel laptop and my AMD desktop.
Stability has been perfect!
Yes, I have experienced a small issue due to Debian unstable "Sid" which didn't break my system. I handled it on one computer by rolling back to the previous day, and continuing from there. I handled it on the other computer by waiting a few days before updating the system.
My history with Linux dates back to '96 and Slackware, back when we had to create our own floppies with the RAWRITE command. Throughout the years, I've done my fair share of distro hopping, including Red Hat 6 (not the commercial release everyone knows today), S.u.S.E (before it became OpenSUSE), Stampede Linux, Gentoo, Arch, yada yada yada...
But most of all, I've been a die-hard Debian and Debian-based user for a majority of that time. There are only two distros in the Debian class that I've used in either a commercial setting or at home for years at a time: Debian Stable and Mint Xfce.
Mint was the last distribution that I had on both my laptop and desktop for the past 5 or six years without a problem. Unfortunately, my laptop recently crashed (from all the abuse it took over those years). Which left me with my desktop. I had upgraded from Mint 18 to 19 to 20 without any problems. I had ZFS in a RAIDZ configuration on four 4TB drives and a 500GB nvme drive as my main boot device. It wasn't until my attempt to update to Mint 21.1, and all hell broke loose.
Since then, I've been fighting with several distros, trying to get my system back to the way I like it. I've tried MX Linux, Debian STABLE and TESTING, Ubuntu, Xubuntu (since I prefer Xfce), and even went back to FreeBSD for a go. However, none really came close to fitting the bill, except surprisingly enough, Ubuntu did. But there are still a few quirks about Ubuntu that I can do without... Snaps, I'm talking to you!!!.
So, the other day, I stumbled upon "siduction", and all I can say is WOW!!! I installed the Xfce version on both my laptop and desktop, and was up and running on both within a matter of minutes. With all the tweaks I had to do on both systems, I would say it too me about 5 hours each, to get them configured to where I was comfortable them.
"siduction" is a fantastic distro. The community has done an outstanding job with it. They've managed to do all the "heavy-lifting" for you. Unfortunately, there is one snag I've run into, which is why I can only give it a 9/10 rating, and that has to do with not being able to get ZFS working on it, yet. Tomorrow is another day, and I'll continue to keep diving into trying to solve this problem. If anything, I'm going to keep "siduction" on my laptop, and if worse-comes-to-worse, then I'll put Ubuntu back on my desktop, because I'm not about to let 16TB of disk space go to waste.
I've been using Ubuntu, Mint, for almost 20 years now. I rarely ever install Debian because of the massive effort required to tune the system for my needs. I finally decided to test Siduction after years of avoiding it because of it's "unstable" nature. well after 8 weeks of testing I can say that the distro installs nicely, it comes configured with the right set and amount of apps, the filesystem is properly configured, everything works on my computers running it, the packages are amazingly fresh, and it is stable. Also the MOW desktop look is rather nice. This is my go-to distro from now on, I am done with distrohopping.
Obviously very updated distribution, perhaps more than Arch and for the moment I would say stable.
The LXQT version is fast and responsive and with neat and pleasant graphics.
The only annoying thing is that to update safely you have to exit in "int 3" but since this protects the system that's fine.
I haven't encountered any driver problems and I've only once had to wait a day to be able to install software that had an unresolved dependency.
The documentation is very well done.
I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the distribution.
Was using 21.3.0 Wintersky in a virtual machine and was about to install on the hardware as my daily use machine. It takes me awhile to move to another install as there are gigabytes of mail and other items, along with reshuffling partitions.
The VM quit working after one of the updates, well exactly the keyboard worked EXEPT for the enter key, couldn't even signon to the GUI. Could get into it in text mode but never got it functional with the GUI. May have been a missmatch with VIrtualBox extras.
I finally decided to install the new release 22.1 Masters of war. Wrong move. The Task bar has become a nightmare. It doesn't perform anything like the prior release. They have decided to use a floating bar with the running tasks, sorry that's not my idea of useful I don't want to chase the floating taskbar when I want to switch to another running task. There doesn't appear any way to move the running tasks back to what was the normal task bar in 21.3.0. All the icons about the system are located on the left, with no apparent way to move them back to the right.
I know the developers have just got to play with the new shinny objects BUT please give us a SINGLE place to set things on the desktop back to what they were.
General comment Siduction appears to purge all the graphics from prior releases immediately on moving to the next release, would be nice to have the desktop images for prior releases, I happened to like the Wintersky background.
Back to testing Mint Cinnamon and openSuSE Leap. Still trying Manjaro BUT as many of the current distros it has problems connecting AND staying connected to my Epson XP-7100 or Cannon MG7720.
Congratulations for all the siduction team.
Siduction is one of the coolest, powerfull and polished distribution. I like them from long time ago, when the name was sidux... All these days the devs are working hard to make a quite stable distrinution out of Debian Sid that is the unstable rolling development version of the Debian distribution containing the latest packages that have been introduced into Debian, NOT STABLE in its nature...
Highly recommend it for power users (that can use many special tools that are included) that asking Debian code base but in rolling release!
Cheers respectful team.
Congratulations to Siduction Linux for being the first regular distribution to apply a kernel that actually detects the internal keyboard on the recent Asus Vivobooks and Zenbooks laptops. Kernel 6.1.1-4-siduction-amd64.
That in itself makes it valuable to me.
Although it did not have my native language in the installer this was easily fixed once I got to the desktop (Plasma)
I also had to download language and help packs for LibreOffice in my language.
The distro comes with the usual set of packages for internet, office and multimedia, but also some extra bits here and there like Midnight Commander (mc) and remote destop tools.
You can use both Discover and Synaptic to install and remove software by GUI.
Thank you siductuon team for bringing this out!
It's a keeper!
It would be close to perfect if you added a Distro for Gnome.
Didn't know they made a Debian distro without Gnome.
I like that it came with the latest 6.1.1 kernel, and a full repository of apps, without SNAP!
I installed Siduction as XFCE, then installed apt install gnome-session.
That allowed me to get my foot in the door with Gnome.
I later installed apt install gnome.
That gives most of the gnome packages.
Also added apt install gnome-session-extension-manager
That allows gnome extension modifications.
With Gnome, and XFCE both on the Drive, it ends up bigger, and more bloated than I like.
The fix would be for the Siduction group to add a Gnome Distro version? PLEASE!
This is surprisingly good. The system installed easily and just worked. It is very fast, auto login works, which isn't always the case with Debian weekly builds.
I used the xfce desktop, upgraded to the 5.19 series kernel version. Updates and installation of packages was straightforward and positive from both the command line and with Synaptic.
I like the ability to create launchers on the Desktop, not possible with some distros.
So far nothing to complain about.
If you remove the ID from Siduction you get suction but the developers sure ain't suckers!
Great experience so far. Very stable and great forum for support. And I love KDE since I used it first on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Compared to Tumbleweed (rolling release as well) the updates are lower in download size but not so much in update time. However no issue at all. Very pleased with Siduction.
It is probably true that the developer base is not so huge. One more reason to support this distro. Really great work done. Let's hope it will be around for a long time.
Wish the team all the best for the future!!!
There are some rough edges on this distribution. Somehow that is something one would expect from a distribution based on Debian's so called "unstable" branch. Still, Siduction is running perfectly fine for years now on all my machines being laptops or classic desktop PCs.
What needs to be improved are the preinstalled applications and tools. There is way too much clutter and duplicates of tools for the same purpose. Nothing severe of course and an "apt purge" away from the user having a lean and clean system. But still, that's what I would expect from a distribution: a sane and well chosen application set.
Still, all in all Siduction has a lot of points on the plus side:
- solid base
- devs respond quickly
- friendly, helpful community both on forums and IRC
- interesting choice for rolling release users
Absolute best debian install I have ever used. If you need networking and administration in a working environment, this is it.
I have no cons for this distribution as yet. Been using it in a work and personal environment for several months. I use it with things taken from MX. Mostly applications such as Featherpad, Notepadqq, Remmina etc. I use it with KDE which has improved greatly over the years mainly for dolphin and effective mixed networking environment. For me it is the magic combination of things that work. Years ago I used this combination effectively but KDE became unusable so I switched to Meppis then debian as Mepis faltered then MX and now full circle back to debian unstable rolling via siduction. I really don't want to fix my distro all the time and siduction just works. Hope it stays that way.
Still a great distro. I miss the gnome version but I love KDE too and have gotten used to it. Runs great on my 4 year old Lenovo Ideapad and even older HP Envy.
I ve installed the "xorg" (minimal xorg: fluxbox) all went "ok" till the time I booted the system :
windows left a trail like the "end of the solitaire effect" on windoze -you may remember that game,
no problem I ve installed picom and everything - I thought was fine: till I ve realised A LOT of things were missing.. eg codecs (no friggin sound) not even "sound volume" icon.
No surprises the distro is going to die soon as ONLY 3 or 4 from the team left - now I have an idea of the half-baked releases... .. so better look elsewhere if you want a WORKING distro
Very pleasantly surprised with Siduction!
I have been looking for a Debian unstable distro, that uses all the latest kernels, apps, and software.
Siduction quickly updated to 5.15 kernel.
Since I like Gnome desktop the best?
I would like to see Gnome come as an iso option.
But, to my pleasant surprise, Gnome 40, and Cinnamon were both on the repository.
Gnome and Cinnamon were easily installed with the apt install command.
I also like the grub bootloader, used on Siduction.
Since I do multi-boot with Ubuntu and Manjaro, I usually use the Ubuntu bootloader.
I gave it a 9 rating, and the lack of a Gnome desktop .iso option, kept it from a 10.
Keep up the good work Siduction, and I will test all future versions.
Thanks,
Terry K.
Hot Springs, Arkansas
i like this distro very much. As far as I can tell, it's the best presentation of Debian Unstable I can find. Thanks to those who are maintaining Siduction. You're doing a great job.
I'm using the KDE version, which is apparently the flagship for this interesting distro. Nearly everything comes from Debian unstable (sid) which should make siduction unstable too, but it does not. I've had less breakage with this than with released versions of Ubuntu and openSUSE tumbleweed though these are far more tested and curated. The "Handbuch" is very good documentation, clear and understandable to me even though I had my last formal instruction in German well over a half century ago and have rarely used it since. They say they're working on an English translation....
They recommend updating in runlevel 3, which I'm used to doing in Tumbleweed. This can be kind of a pain but it seems to be worth it to avoid problems. I wrote a little shell script that uses tmux to show htop, sensors and nmon as well as the apt output which makes it interesting.
I wouldn't be using this if I were designing life-support equipment or bridges, but for my simple use case it is safe enough and it is fun to be on the bleeding edge.
I put my money where my mouth was and sent them a small donation today. This is a tiny project and deserves to grow.
I came to using this on the daily after remembering that it was a thing a year or so back. A that time a new ISO hand't released since roughly 2018 and I was not comfortable installing from media that old (prior experiences with Arch and Manjaro led to this decision), so I dabbled with the likes of Mageia (another highly recommended distro btw) and even OpenBSD. When I heard news of this new release, I had to try it, so I installed (install was quick, in under 15 minutes) and haven't looked back since. After installation, the only thing left to do was to install my preferred suite of software (coming from Arch, I was surprised that most of my AUR programs were either available as binaries in the main repos, or from source.) and disabling the unattended-upgrades so I could more freely use the package manager. I don't need to talk about how good apt-get is, as I'm sure many of you already know. Printer support is just fine, and WINE works fine enough if you were to need a windows program for whatever reason.
This distro is great for those users which are seasoned as well as those who are just starting out their Linux journey.
Using a new Zenbook UX325EA most of the Linux distributions I tested (Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, MX Linux) failed to allow either brightness control of the OLED display or audio output via the build in speakers.
Finally with the latest version of Siduction (shipped with kernel 5.13.6. on the Live ISO) these problems ended as well as my tests of other Linux derivatives.
Currently I am using v21.2.0 with the Cinnamon desktop the same way I used Linux Mint previously with Cinnamon. From a user's perspective there is almost no visible change but regarding administration it should be noted, that Siduction is based on... guess what? Debian Sid!
Before upgrading the software of that rolling release it is highly recommended to read the recent upgrade information on the project's home page. You will get help using the IRC chat of the project in German and English.
After exchanging my Ubuntu system for a highly-touted Linux "newcomer," and finding it unpleasant for me, I decided to try the very latest version of Siduction. I had been trying it before it discontinued updates.
I am pleased to say Siduction installed smoothly, and is now running smoothly on my day-to-day machine. It seems almost pure Debian, which I love, with a very recent kernel. I'm using the Cinnamon desktop.
I want to find another way, as well, to thank the people at Siduction for their excellent distribution. Please keep up the good work. I'm hoping, after a week, to be able to shift all my machines to Siduction.
I'm touched also by the "en memorium" on the original wallpaper. It's a kind thing to do.
The Plasma Future edition already contains Debian GNU / Linux 11. Among other things, this has the advantage that scanner and printer are recognized immediately. Worked perfectly on my PC. Further it has the newest Plasma edition (5.22.4) on board. The manual is written very understandable and gives a good insight in Siduction or better said in the handling of Debian itself. The installation was smooth and perfect. A very successful birthday present on top of the times! Everything is fine, round and fast: In my opinion deserved 10 points.
This is mixed-bag distro: some isos are working well, they do boot and installation goes ok. but isos like the xorg (openbox only) that is a nice minimal iso, stucks for hours on installation == half-backed iso I assume.
Now, THIS is what I'm talking about! A Linux distro that's easy to install, and is smooth running. I like what they've done with the LXLE desktop. It's completely functional but blazing fast, light, and not clunky. I can use siduction without thinking about it. It just works. Plus, it's a rolling distro! I should give it a 10. I just hope that over the long run, Debian unstable isn't as buggy as Arch and Gentoo.
Xfce flavour tested here. I can't see almost no differences between Siduction and its father Debian Sid. There is almost nothing new in this distro that you don't find in Debian, there is no original software, there is no utilities helping users to do things. Nothing. I don't get the point: Is it just the desktop image with the word "Siduction" the reason this is called "a distro"? By the way: It was impossible to install a working WINE, and you have to look in the internet how to activate sudo because it doesn't work neither. Compare this distro to Sparky (rolling branch): Both share same roots, but they are night and day.
Always fresh and stable distro with a great community behind it!
Be sure to drop into IRC and browse the forum, the "Upgrade Warnings" section can be very helpful. Siduction allows easy access to fresh RC kernels and Mesa git builds for the gaming enthusiasts. Also has nearly every DE ever made available in repos.
When others reinstall their broken distros, Debian keeps on truckin'. Give it a spin!
A very stable flavor of the unstable debian.
The installer has an option to make a tailor made installation without the need to wipe the whole disk.
I use the xfce desktop environment. Its polished, fast and stable!!!!
8/10 from me, I tried the LXQT flavour, I would keep it as a daily driver but
alas some issues:
visual artifacts on top bar of the chrome browser , also keep a note that the installer will wipe your /home/.local folder - just in case you already have a separate HOME partition and want to use without formatting. Otherwise is a nice and fast Debian Unstable distro, forum very friendly, highly recommended - that is if your hardware is supported.
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